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TUAW Review: Podcaster

Podcaster AppYou've heard about the controversy surrounding Podcaster -- it's the iPhone app that was turned down by Apple for "duplicating the functionality of iTunes." The developer, Alex Sokirynsky, is now distributing his native podcast stream receiver app via ad hoc distribution.

The iPhone development world & the Mac blogosphere (not to mention the mainstream press) is still loudly debating Apple's decision, but not much is being said about the application itself. Alex was kind enough to provide a review copy of Podcaster to TUAW, so we gave the app a workout. Read on for our review of this controversial and useful application.


The ad hoc distribution of Podcaster weighs in at 724 KB in a downloadable zip file that expands to a 1.9 MB application file and 16 KB mobile provisioning file. To install the application, the mobile provisioning file is dragged to the iTunes Applications page, followed by the application file. One quick sync and the app is installed on your iPhone.

Once Podcaster is happily residing on your iPhone, it's time to add podcast URLs to the application. To do this, one tap on the traditional iPhone "+" (add) button brings up a search and import page. To search for a podcast, just enter the name in the search field, and if Podcaster finds the correct listing, you simply tap on its name to import the feed. There are also buttons at the bottom of the search and import page to show you listings of Featured, New, Top Rated, or Popular podcasts from Podcaster.fm.

When you've have established the feeds for your favorite podcasts, they appear on the My Podcasts screen with an icon and the date of the most recent podcast episode. A tap on the podcast entry displays a list of all of the episodes in the feed file. To stream a podcast episode to your iPhone, simply tap on it, then tap the play button to listen. Podcaster does a remarkably good job of streaming podcasts over an EDGE connection, which is great if you have a first-generation iPhone or (like the author of this post) have really crappy 3G service. WiFi connectivity works as well, of course.

If you'd like to download a podcast for future playback, there's a small download icon in the lower right corner of the screen that you can tap. While the podcast is being downloaded, a small floppy disk icon -- a blast from the past -- shows up next to the podcast speaker icon. You can tap on it to see the progress of your download. Where does that downloaded podcast end up? Not in the iPod application, but in Podcaster in a listing under Downloads. To play the saved podcast on your next flight to Australia, just tap on the entry for the podcast on the Downloads page, and a player appears. Once you've listened to the podcast, tap the trash can icon to delete it.

The user interface is functional, although a bit unimaginative. Since this is an application you're supposed to listen to rather than look at, that's not a deal-killer for me.

Your alternatives to Podcaster? Well, you can always sync podcast episodes to your iPhone from iTunes. Hmm ... gotta have a computer to do that. A reader suggested using NetNewsWire for iPhone (click opens App Store), but that means that you need to go to the NewsGator Online site and add the feeds. I couldn't get it to work, but then again, I didn't try that hard.

Is Podcaster worth the US$9.99 donation that Alex is asking for? It depends. If you want the ability to be able to subscribe and listen to podcasts from anywhere with an EDGE, 3G, or WiFi connection without jailbreaking your phone, then this may be the app for you. However, Alex notes that 1) Ad Hoc distributions are only good for one year, and 2) Apple has remote app "kill switch" capabilities, so they could choose to be nasty and remove Podcaster from your iPhone.

Frankly, I can't see why Apple nixed Podcaster from being in the App Store, unless there are some native podcast tools in the works for a future release. Even then, there are many other applications that duplicate the capability of iPhone apps -- think of the calculator applications that compete with Apple's built-in calculator app as an example -- although it's been pointed out that Podcaster cuts a lot closer to the core functionality of the iPhone than a calculator does. Meanwhile, it seems that the controversy over this application hasn't hurt the donation-based distribution: over 1300 copies of Podcaster are already in the wild, stretching the Ad Hoc distribution system way beyond its original boundaries.

To take a look at the user interface of Podcaster, check out the gallery.



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David Gerard

Microsoft is really losing it in the evil stakes these days. They used to be really good at evil. Now Apple is kicking their backsides for evil. When Steve Jobs goes "MuWAAAhahahaha!", the brainwashed minions listen. His henchmen are really loyal, not just getting paid to be. Poor Ballmer.

September 20 2008 at 7:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
mikey

"-3G downloading: You can dl over 3G, but it just DRAINS the power. I
loaded up ~200MB of podcasts to test drive the thing, and it drained
almost the entire battery. So be sure do dl judicously or while
plugged in."

i'd be quite ticked off to find out my iphone battery was drained by
using this app to download over 3G.

bet this is the real reason it was pulled (to keep
user complaints about battery life down!!)

September 19 2008 at 8:57 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Gert Sanders

The point about the iTunes backup slowing down as more podcasts are DL'd is a valid one, since all "data"files of an application are backed up.

On the 1.1.x platform there is MobileCast (for jailbroken devices only of course), which does allow deletion of episodes. The episode reference is kept, but the downloaded mediafile can be deleted to make space for new stuff. Since MC is using the mediaplayer in the background, you could leave the MC application while listening to an audio-podcast (this is not possible for videopodcasts). With the current limitations in the SDK we will not be able to fully reproduce the MobileCast functionality on rel 2.x platforms, which is a real shame. However we are working on a rel 2.x platform version.

If the built in iTunes Store app allows subscription of podcasts at some point in the future, ony then will the Podcaster and MobileCast applications become redundant. This should still not be a reason for rejection on the App Store though.

September 19 2008 at 7:45 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
KenC

Seems to me that it can't play podcasts in the background, which iTunes can do, which isn't as useful.

But, the reason I can see for not allowing this app, is that it could be a bandwidth hog over 3G. I get some huge video podcasts from the Washington Post, and TedTalks. If the 3G network is overtaxed now, imagine those people with NetShare or Podcaster using the same bandwidth.

And, can someone tell me is this a security breach? I mean couldn't malware be distributed by RSS? If there's no central access point like iTunes, wouldn't you be more vulnerable to a 3rd-party breach?

If that's the case, I can easily see why bandwidth and security would be cause for concern for Apple.

September 18 2008 at 8:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nick

Been using it for a couple days and it's great; highly recommended. Yes, there are other ways to listen to podcasts on the iPhone, but none of them are as straightforward as this -- even if it doesn't work in the background.

September 18 2008 at 3:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
klowy

no, it does not work in the background, which is a huge drawback for me. also, it downloads all the podcasts and there's no way to delete the one's you either already listened to, or don't want to listen to. I'm sort of glad I have it, but I am sure Apple will get around to adding this functionality, and sadly, it will be better than this app. Also, it plays podcasts as if they are quicktime movies. I wish the reviewers would be a little more thorough with their reviews. I would rate this app a 3 out of 5.

September 18 2008 at 3:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Kai Cherry

chew on this:

At least two of the things on the wishlist above, this developer might not be able to provide to you without risking violating the NDA :D

Go Team Apple!

September 23 2008 at 7:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alan

It sounds like a great app, except when you think of its drawbacks. Yes, you can DL on the fly, but you think 3G service is bad now? Wait until people are DLing all their podcasts this way. Your DLed podcasts do not, then, sync with iTunes. So you've DLed these 50 MB worth of podcasts, and your app will grow huge and prompt massive backups, and probably slow down your phone and possibly Springboard itself. This will then trickle up to Apple, whom people will blame for making a crappy phone. People don't notice the name on the App as not being Apple, they'll just make noise for poor performance that's not Apple's fault.

There are a lot of technical drawbacks people should be focused on instead of denouncing Apple as the evil empire. If, Apple had an API for linking to the podcasts manager, this would be easier. Since it does not, this app is not useful for the vast majority of the populace

September 18 2008 at 2:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
mike k.

He needs to sue.

September 18 2008 at 1:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Kai Cherry

I do not believe he could :)

September 23 2008 at 7:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
imcquill

I just added a bunch of podcasts to NetNewsWire on newsgator.com. It works *great* on the iphone. The only problem is right now, netnewswire only keeps around read entries for at most 3 days (as set in the settings), and there is no way to take a feed that is read and mark it as unread. So you can only keep the entries around for 3 days. But is works great when it is playing. I hope that they allow that number to selectively increase for certain feeds in a future version of netnewswire.

September 18 2008 at 10:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jeff Brown

A couple of comments:

-20MB limit: Definitely not. I have dl'ed a 66MB podcast and it works fine.
-Using Simplify Media, Air Sharing, etc to listen to podcasts: This assumes you have a constant quality connection to the net. For example I am going to Wyoming this week and want to listen to podcasts on long drives. There will be WiFi at the hotel, so if I can dl there I can listen while driving in the middle of nowhere. Also, my employer has 802.1x wireless(and I am not alone), and Air Sharing doesn't work with that.
-3G downloading: You can dl over 3G, but it just DRAINS the power. I loaded up ~200MB of podcasts to test drive the thing, and it drained almost the entire battery. So be sure do dl judicously or while plugged in.
-Background listening: Nope, you need to have the app running to listen.

I bought the app and I am happy with my purchase. I'm still going to use iTunes and my laptop to do most of my podcast downloading, but Podcaster is a good backup for times when you don't have access to iTunes(traveling, on a network where it is blocked, etc).

I also think it is irritating that Apple has prevented sale of it. You look at the pile of garbage on the App store with a small handful of gems amidst the junk, and they pick THIS to stop - something that actually is USEFUL and EXTENDS FUNCTION.

-If they are going to add this functionality to iTunes, fine - as soon as they do, the vast majority of people will go over to using iTunes. In the meantime, either DELIVER THIS NOW, or let someone else do it.
-If they are worried about bandwith, don't. For starters the dl'ing will be limited by how battery intensive it is. Also, right now you can play most podcasts from their respective websites, which means you download the whole thing in to a buffer. Which takes up just as much bandwith as downloading to a more permanent file.

It's just dumb control freak stuff. Lighten up Apple - try banning some flashlight programs if you need to ban something.

September 18 2008 at 10:39 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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mikey

"-3G downloading: You can dl over 3G, but it just DRAINS the power. I loaded up ~200MB of podcasts to test drive the thing, and it drained almost the entire battery. So be sure do dl judicously or while plugged in."

i'd be quite ticked off to find out my iphone battery was drained by using this app to download over 3G.

bet this is the real reason it was pulled (to keep
user complaints about battery life down!!)

September 18 2008 at 10:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jeff Brown

To be fair, I was intentionally torture testing the thing to see its limits. 200MB in a moving car is asking a lot. I still think it is worth the price, and I think Apple needs to add this functionality soon or let someone else do it.

September 19 2008 at 9:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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