Dashboard a Ripoff? Boycott Apple?
The images of the new OS X feature “Dashboard” have prompted more than one compairison to Konfabulator, and some people are pretty pissed off about it - even looking for a boycot of Apple. Russell Beattie says:
It’s very simple. Support your fellow
developer or watch as the next application Apple copies wholesale is yours. They’ve done it to Adobe, they’ve done it
to Watson, they’ve done it to OmniWeb and now they’re doing it to Konfabulator. I’m a wanna be switcher and a
Jobs-devotee and if you’ve been reading this weblog for any amount of time you know I normally never miss a keynote
once it’s available online, but this time I don’t have the stomache to bother watching it. This is the biggest ripoff
ever.
I think in the past I’ve seen some justification for Apple’s infringing on third party developers. I think we’ve all done that - things that “should” be part of the OS and make wholistic sense, well, we’ll give Apple some leeway. A menu widget or extensions to Sherlock. Okay. A web browser? Why not. Even Brent saw the practicality in adding RSS to Safari, no? RSS is getting more popular every day, it’s only a matter of time before Apple and Microsoft add it in.
But copying the JavaScript-enabled Desktop Widgets? Nonononono. That’s not right. I remember when I first read about Konfabulator about a year ago I was amazed at how cool the app was and how ingenious it was as well. We *all* love elegant, simple to expand solutions like Konfabulator. But vital to the Mac OS? No. Not in any respect. For Apple to copy Konfabulator like they did is just stealing. Not “Great Artist” stealing like what Jobs did at PARC, just plain outright idea theft. A common robbery. A mugging.
And he’s not the only one - Marc Cantor and Scoble are pissed as well, on the other hand, Jason DeFillippo thinks people should calm down:
Look, I understand the backlash against the Dashboard and similarities with Konfabulator. It’s lame and Apple should be pretty ashamed of itself. I’m pretty sure someone is gonna get a reaming thanks to all the bad press but c’mon guys… It’s an open market and if Konfabulator can’t hold up then so be it. I think this will HELP sell more copies of Konfabulator than ever. Why? Apple announced their version WAY early so Konfab is the only game in town right now. Dashboard is not nearly as flexible and customizable (from reports I’ve read) and that’s the beauty of Konfab. Also a LOT of people have to be hearing about Konfabulator that didn’t know about it before. That or they knew about it but didn’t try it (like myself) when it was released. There were just weren’t any widgets that I needed at the time. Yesterday I spent a while going through the widget library and found a TON of great stuff and now Konfabulator is a part of my total Mac experience that’s not going anywhere. As soon as my Google checks get here I’m going to register it proudly. So don’t boycott Apple. Don’t stop buying Macs. Just keep one step ahead of them and writing better software.
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Konfabulator did not come up with the idea, it's ANCIENT. Hell, even Windows has had soemthing similar with the active desktop. They should stop whining! They certainly lost me as a potential user with their shitty attitude. And Russell should make a public apology to Apple. God, is he pathetic! Boycott Apple? For what? Because Russell is too stupid to get his facts straight? Go back to kindergarten where you belong.
July 02 2004 at 11:50 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyKames - I use a G4 too. There's plenty more in Tiger besides Dashboard - although I think it will be truly useful. More useful than Konfabulator. I read the John Gruber page and he makes a very valid point about memory usage of Konfabulator as well as the history behind widgets/gadgets/ornaments... I opened Process Viewer and running 4 widgets it using 27.5 Mb of real memory and 550 Mb virtual memory.. That's pretty steep. The greater optimisation in Tiger should make it run faster on all systems - not just G5s, so I think it will be worth the $129 upgrade... I too want a 23" monitor!! Best of luck...
June 30 2004 at 11:41 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyin case you haven't seen it, john gruber over at daringfireball pretty much slammed any arguments you may have about apple ripping off konfab: http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator ...arlo and company need to get back to the drawing board and start innovating again. and didn't they just add "konspos颠in the new update, effectively borrowing expos頦or their own product? who is ripping off who?
June 30 2004 at 8:04 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyPoint: James - if Dashboard was your sole reason for upgrading to 10.4 (when it ships) then that's pretty sad. Core Image/Video, Spotlight and full 64 bit processing strike me as more important aspects. Counterpoint: I run a G4. There goes 64bit. I would spend $2K on an additional 23' monitor.
June 30 2004 at 4:24 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAnyone notice on the Apple site that the Tiger Preview contains not a single image of a Finder window.....
June 30 2004 at 3:02 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHow about a Konfabulator boycott for lying about how they invented this idea and Apple stole it. Taking credit for others work is just about as low as it gets. Bye bye.
June 30 2004 at 12:58 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI tried Konfabulator once, but when I opened it up the next time it said to pay. Nothin'doin I said: Its cool, but I'm not gonna pay just to have an uptime clock or a stock checker. these are things I already have! Running all of the seperate apps together would probably use less system resources than Konfabulator too.
June 30 2004 at 12:22 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe only reason the Konfab guys are complaining is now they have to make their product better. Ain't competition a bitch...and the consumer will be better for it.
June 30 2004 at 11:25 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI had to check the site folklore.org to make sure I had my facts right before entering this. Didn't Apple come up with this whole idea way back in Oct. 1981? They called them Desk Ornaments. Who is copying who? I like it when a software author takes what the OS folks do and fine tune it to our needs. But to say they came up with the idea would not be true.
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