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Cellphone Interference with video-capable iPods

iPod going crazy with a cellphoneRyan Block, over at Engadget, has a post about reported interference on the new iPod being caused by cellphones. There's even a 3GP video file hosted over at this site.

I was skeptical of this one at first, but I just flipped up my Razr and made a call while playing a song and watched as the volume jumped erratically up and down on my iPod. Not very cool at all.

I wonder if I waltz into the Apple Store and show them this, if they'll replace my iPod. I wonder if they have properly shielded ones mixed in or if they all have this problem.

Dear Steve Jobs, please advise. 

Ryan Block, over at Engadget, has a post about reported interference on the new iPod being caused by cellphones. There's even a 3GP video...
 

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nomaded

I don't find this surprising. If Apple is using FingerWorks technology in the new iPods, then this is a known problem. The same problem should occur in the scrolling touchpads on the latest PowerBooks and iBooks.

November 15 2005 at 2:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
gowolverines

I just had this same thing happen to me with my black 4gig nano. I have a Moto V635 and had both in separate, but close pockets and this started happening. I then took the nano out and kept it on my leg and the problem went away. I've seen my cell do this to a CRT monitor, but what in an iPod could cause this?

November 15 2005 at 12:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
dlaroche

My V3 makes my speakers buzz all of the time. Not only in my car, but also my computer and my stereo. I usually keep it on vibrate now as my whole house lets me know it's ringing.

November 15 2005 at 8:43 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Karsten Seiferlin

I had mine in my car next to my SE 910 (Swiss GSM), connected to a no-name FM transmitter. It went bezerk. One could clearly HEAR handshaking between GSM stations and the phone over the car's radio, the iPod's screen went on now and then, the volume on the iPod was switched up and down in a chaotic manner, it paused and resumed...when I took my SE 910 some 30 cm away from it everything was fine and back to normal.

November 15 2005 at 4:02 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Sam Katz

I should mention that GSM is not worse or better, but different. We have a local GSM carrier here which never dropped calls. Why? Because of the GSM standard. If I don't move very much, once I make a call, I keep the bandwidth until I terminate the call. CDMA doesn't work that way --it works differently. The A in CDMA stands for access. CDMA allows handsets to negociate and trade the tower's resources or something like that. My verizon phone can therefore recieve calls fine with only 2 bars of signal strength, although the sound quality isn't as good as on GSM. (This is in part due to the way signal strength is calculated, but that is too complicated for this post.) --Sam

November 15 2005 at 3:20 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nathan Sweeney

Isn't there some kind of FCC thing that states that a device will not produce interference but will accept any interference coming in or something like that? I remember seeing something like that on the bottom of a lot of things a while back. So would that make the phone, not the iPod, at fault?

November 15 2005 at 1:57 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
archie4oz

Tried w/my Sony Ericsson W800i (obviously GSM), next to both my iPod nano and my iPod video, and nothing happened. "I am on Verizon though, so my phone is CDMA which uses a different frequency than you GSM folk. " Actually this isn't 100% true. Depends on who your carrier is. In the US, CDMA ( carriers (Verizon, Sprint, etc.) are on the PCS band (1900MHz). GSM carriers (Cingular, T-Mobile, etc.) are also on the same band in the US. T-Mobile IIRC is strictly a PCS band carrier, while Cingular also has quite a bit of 850MHz GSM network picked up from AT&T (legacy D-AMPS network converted to GSM). Since I'm on T-Mobile (who's 1900MHz only) and it didn't affect me, it's quite possible that this only affects Cingular users when they are broadcasting on the 850MHz band. Just a theory...

November 14 2005 at 11:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
KIVERS

To be a bit more descriptive, it's the TDMA (GSM and iDEN included) technology that causes these problems. These types of phones really only transmit during their assigned time cycled (time is the T in TDMA), this constant pulsating of the radio on the phone causes this interference. This is one of the reasons why people with hearing aids have had trouble using cellphones for years. If you have an old CRT monitor, put your cellphone right next to or underneath it and call it. Just before the phone rings you'll see the screen shake for a second. This should work with either CDMA or TDMA phones.

November 14 2005 at 11:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jimmie

I have a Sprint Treo 650 (CMDA) so thats probably why I guess:)

November 14 2005 at 11:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
KIVERS

You should only see the problem exhibit itself when using a GSM phone. YARCIB = yet another reason CDMA is better

November 14 2005 at 10:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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