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NetNewsWire 3.0 pre-beta released


Since the headline says it all, I need to echo Brent Simmons on this and remind you: this isn't even beta-worthy. It will almost definitely act wonky. If you decide to play with it, backup your present NetNewsWire support directory (~/Library/Application Support/NetNewsWire, using cmd + d will duplicate the folder which is good 'nuff for now) as this release will have bugs in it.

With that warning out of the way: Mr. Simmons announced on inessential.com (his blog) today that he's decided to take a bit more of a public approach to his work on NetNewsWire 3.0, a significant update to one of the most widely used RSS readers available to any OS. With this new slightly more open-door policy to his development work, Brent has unleashed a very pre-release copy of NNW 3.0 into the wild.

He also has provided a list of what's new (which is most likely also a work in progress) in this version, and it goes a little something like this:
  • New Combined view (pictured) - completely rewritten to be faster, more fun, and more useful
  • Attention Reports - NetNewsWire 2.1 added sorting subscriptions by attention-and now you can also see reports that list feeds that get the most and least attention
  • Cosmetic changes - tabs and browser header tweaks, along with other changes that bring it into a more Mac OS X 'unified' look
  • Post Tabs to Weblog - Opens a new window in your weblog editor listing all your open tabs in NetNewsWire. It's a way of doing link-dumps. Right now it only works with MarsEdit, but Brent just needs a script to make it work with ecto too (I'm not sure if that's a hint or not; it's just what's in the release notes)
So far it's a nice update, though I can personally attest that it's definitely wonky. The new combined view (which I don't typically use; I'm a Traditional View man myself) can seize up occasionally, in addition to other minor quirks. On the bright side, this 3.0 update will be a free upgrade for existing users (which is kinda rare for a full-version update), but I hope Brent has more features on the drawing board to warrant a major point upgrade (Labels? More organization features to better facilitate blogging and research? A kitchen sink, perhaps?). However, if you're still feeling adventurous and you've backed up your present NNW support folder, knock yourself out and give this pre-release a test drive.

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bhamm

"Often the feed doesn't, so I have to go to the website. Whenever I click on the story link to do that it sends me to my browser."

i couldn't tell if this was referring to NNW or Newsfire... but in NNW, you can have clicked links open in a new tab, right in NNW (either in the background, while you continue reading headlines.. or have the tab load upfront). It uses the same rendering engine as safari, and you can enable (or not) java, javascript, plugins, etc..

if i could have NNW actually bookmark sites (not just feeds), i wouldn't have a need for safari..

August 08 2006 at 1:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
sjk

jonathan (#9),

Suggestions for managing feeds might be an interesting topic to post on the NNW Tech Support section of the NewsGator forum:

http://www.newsgator.com/FORUM/Forum9-1.aspx

I'd be curious to hear some different usage scenarios and possibly pick up a few new ideas.

August 08 2006 at 12:20 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Beirne

jonathan asked:
how do you organize your feeds and handle the massive amount....

I have 87 feeds and do OK. For me the key is to be merciless about marking things read. I use the combined view and scroll through all of the stories in a feed, opening ones that I want to read fully in a new background tab. When I've opened all of the tabs for a feed I mark it as read and then go read the stories. When I fall behind, I skim real fast and then mark the stories read. With 4000 stories of backlog you should just mark them all read and start over.

August 07 2006 at 8:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Beirne

Thomas said:
Each day when I get home I have aboue 1500 entries waiting for me in Newsfire, the only time I ever open a page in my browser is if I want to reply to something later on. Otherwise I just read the full article - assuming the feed provides it. What's all this about only being able to read a summary?

You answered the question yourself, you read the full article if the feed provides it. Often the feed doesn't, so I have to go to the website. Whenever I click on the story link to do that it sends me to my browser.

August 07 2006 at 8:21 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jonathan

i use netnewswire too...i have only 68 feeds, but have trouble reading all or most of them....i am behind by over 4000....

how do you organize your feeds and handle the massive amount....

a post with tips and tricks would be great...whatever secrets you got on rss management

thnaks a bunch

August 07 2006 at 12:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Paul

Funny for being a non-beta it has not crashed on me yet.

August 07 2006 at 11:33 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
bhamm

if you spend a few minutes tweaking NNW's layout and colors/styles.. you can make it into something pretty nice.. for instance, i went to a 3 column layout and used the color picker to grab colors from itunes (the light blue margin and alternating (grey/white) rows:

http://ideastorm.com/nnw.png (screenshot)

the only feature i'd like to see at this point is for NNW to let me bookmark a page/site (not just a feed). I've been experimenting with delicious and posting bookmarks there.. and then subscribing to that (my) feed. I just wish there was something built into NNW for this.

August 07 2006 at 11:08 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Matt

"1. I'm still waiting for somebody to explain the reason why NNW is so popular. Its interface is sub-par by comparison to the competition (NewsFire), it's not directly integrated with the browser (as with Safari), it's pricey ($30), etc. I tried NNW a few months ago, and it was obvious to me after 5 minutes that it wasn't half as polished as some other feed readers on the market."

100% agreed, I think I'll stick with Vienna

August 07 2006 at 9:54 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Chris G.

Yesterday I decided to switch from Bloglines to a RSS reader. I found a RSS reader called Vienna that is absolutely fantastic. Very simple, does what I need, and is really fast. I'm sold on it.

Best part is that it is free.

August 07 2006 at 9:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Thomas

Each day when I get home I have aboue 1500 entries waiting for me in Newsfire, the only time I ever open a page in my browser is if I want to reply to something later on. Otherwise I just read the full article - assuming the feed provides it. What's all this about only being able to read a summary?

August 07 2006 at 9:00 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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