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Can Nokia kill the iPod?

Conventional tech wisdom tells us that convergence will conquer all. People don't want to lug around multiple devices when they can have one device that does it well. Sadly, this isn't as easy as it sounds.

Take, for example, two pieces of tech that seem pretty standard issue now a days: the cell phone and the iPod. Motorola tried to combine the two with the ROKR and it didn't work out all that well (they were even working with Apple). The trick is that you can't just combine a crappy phone and a crappy MP3 player and hope for the best. This is why the iPhone rumors are so persistent; Apple is known as a company that 'gets it' therefore, so goes the thinking, an über-phone from Apple will solve all of our problems.

The Nokia Music Manager which allows you to transfer songs from iTunes to your phone.

So, will customers clamor for all in ones and leave Apple behind? I can't predict the future, but at this point I wouldn't bet against Apple, though the N91 does look pretty slick.

Thanks, Mikek.


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kontorhotel

I just love my new e61.. but i would die for a new ipod phone.. pda.. come om mac.. give it to me..

November 05 2006 at 4:01 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
pnarse

One major problem, battery life.
I have to charge by blackberry once or twice a week, and I make quite a few calls and send many SMS.
I also charge my iPod once or twice a week, as it has an 18 hour battery life and I don't have a dock.

I listen to music all time time when out, and when my music player is flat, suddenly I'm out of contact! No thanks!

October 27 2006 at 6:04 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
EricSeale

I love my nokia N80. It has 802.11g and a podcatcher. I just converted from itunes this week. Only thing I dont like is taking my 520$ phone with me when I jog. I hope I never drop it. If it had more RAM and 4 gig of flash it would be perfect. My 2GB miniSD is already ~80% full. oh yea, I sync my calender to my phone.

October 27 2006 at 1:59 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jacques Lema

I agree with many posters here. I am a huge proponent of a all-in-one device. I would like my phone to be able to take decent quality pictures (not 6 Megapixels, just *REAL* 2-3 megapixels, instead of a bunch of blurry crap), I want it to be a good MP3 player (the kind that can sort Mp3 correctly and remember the last song and allow *fast* copies with a dock or cable.

I tested lots of phones due to some jobs with J2ME development. Most of them suck awfully in term of UI. Sony is probably the best right now and even them are far away from Apple. Call me a fanboy but I am certain it is easier for Apple to add a SIM chip inside and iPod than for nokia to understand how heavy, slow and unconsistent Symbian OS 9.0 is.

October 26 2006 at 5:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
WY

In the beginning, I wanted to have one device that did everything. Since I worry about battery life for all my tech gadgets, I'm not so sure I want one device that does everything. Having to only deal with one tech item is quite a sexy thought, but my iPod is almost full at 80GB so a phone would have to allow me at least that, but probably more.

October 26 2006 at 3:13 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Phil M

I absolutely cannot stand Sony Ericcson's user interface.

For me, Nokia's Series 60 is the holy grail of phone UIs, and nothing else ever seemed to "click" with me. There's never a point where I wonder what i'm doing/about to do/just did with the phone, and it doesn't seem to lag too much with useless animations like on those non-symbian SE's.

Even the Symbian Sony Ericcson's that run UIQ still seem really counter-intuitive.

October 26 2006 at 12:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rob

Check out this phone reviewed by the New York Times Today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/technology/26pogue.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin

It utilizes the iPod click wheel with the compass point buttons for navigation. And a power-assist flip opener? What?!

At $1,275, I don't think it'll be much competition. But pretty wild nonetheless...

October 26 2006 at 12:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alex

Let's start with the fact that the N91 now comes with 8GB and not 4. And although I've never used one for more than five minutes, I can honestly say that it would take a lot for me to switch from my iPod. And this is coming from a person who lives and dies by Nokia Series60 phones, which brings me to my second point: the person above who said that Nokia interfaces don't make much sense but the SonyErricson ones do--I'll admit that this is a point of preference and so I won't argue with you.

Having said that: First please learn the difference b/w series40, series60 (and at that point may as well lookup series 80 and 90) of the Nokia interfaces, before you post a comment like that. (as a cheat sheet, series40 is the usual dumb phone nokia interface that I'm sure everyone has seen--by the way--that is the best phone interface of any company out there, there I said it. series60 is the most popular smart phone interface and the one found on all the 66xx phones, as well as the Nseries and Eseries high end smart phone lines coming out of Nokia nowadays, and that too is about the best damn interface of any smartphone).

Oh, and SonyErricsons, dont even have a dedicated call/end buttons--how is that even a phone. Where you can find the same function in about 30 different places in the menus, that's not a well design interface

As someone mentioned, look at the upcoming N95 from nokia. And yes, I love my iPod, but having just gotten the N73 w/ a Carl Zeis 3 megapixel camera, I can finally start leaving my professional digital cam at home for when I go out at nights or just on an every day basis. And if the radio headset wasn't so cumbersome, I would consider bringing my iPod a little less often too.

October 26 2006 at 10:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mike

in my last post, read "distilled" instead of "distiled"... ;-)

October 26 2006 at 9:06 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mike

My last 4 mobiles were, in order: Nokia, Nokia, Siemens and Sony/Ericsson. None of them, except the second Nokia had decent designed menus. When I say decent I don't mean pretty, I mean, coerent, logical and working with the minimum number of clicks. Siemens was the worst of all. I had to replace it 5 times in three monts during the initial warranty, as it failed to work properly. Siemens, in my oppinion, is 100% destiled crap. I will never buy it again.

Many "iPod killers" failed to kill iPod due to what I call the "toaster syndrom".
One of these days I bought a toaster to myself. It was a good toaster. Not a high end toaster, but a good one. So, I plug it on the wall, adjusted the toast level button to the middle, inserted two slices of bread and put the /&%$ thing to do what it was designed to do: to toast the bread.

30 seconds later, the toasts were ejected completely untoasted. I repeated the process and after a while the toaster ejected my toasts so hard they landed on the floor... completely CARBONIZED!

Resuming: 99% of companies do not test what they produce. They suffer from the TOASTER SYNDROM. That's why Apple is kicking everybody's a**es! Nothing is more true than the phrase IT JUST WORKS used by Apple on its ads.

October 26 2006 at 9:01 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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