Original iPhone owners & Push Notifications
We have received multiple reports from 3.0 firmware users on original iPhones who are NOT experiencing the problems described, and who do receive calls without difficulty with the push notification service turned on. Cory's original post is left as-is below; however, we no longer believe the issue is widespread or will affect most original iPhone users. Our apologies for any undue anxiety or confusion.
One of the most awaited features, push notifications, requires a constant data connection. While the iPhone 3G can handle data and voice simultaneously when using a 3G/HSDPA connection, on EDGE (the cellular data service that the original iPhone uses) you are unable to take calls and maintain a persistent data connection.
Some iPhone owners might consider this a slap in the face from Apple, while other iPhone users will just be glad that their phone now has notifications. Either way, the good thing is that the voice mail system uses a data connection, so you will still get your voicemails.
Push notifications could also end up being a flop for other iPhone users too. Due to the structure of the service, push notifications can get lost in transit, and pushes to the same app (possibly all pushes) kick older ones out of the push queue.
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Editor's Note: For more information about this post, see here.We have received multiple reports from 3.0 firmware users on original iPhones...
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Seems to have effectively been pulled from the front page. Thankfully.
June 17 2009 at 12:31 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySTOP being so hard on the author.
He is RIGHT in theory. A Notification and a Call cant happedn at the same time.
But this DOESNT mean that push notifications wont work on the very old iPhones.
I mean its possible that an error like this occurr if a push notification arrives at the EXACT moment that a call.
It very difficult but its posible.
@aleenm88: What you are saying is true. However, it is NOT what author was saying. If Cory wrote what you just did, no one would post all these comments. However, he posted a portion of complete nonsense which does not deserve any protection.
June 17 2009 at 12:38 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply@aleenm88: NO, he is NOT 'right in theory'.
The fact that he attempts to base his article on is that EDGE + voice calls can't happen at the same time.
The reality is that (I believe) if you are on a phone call, EDGE data won't happen. So, you'll miss push notifications (and EMAIL) during those calls.
But, once the phone call is over, EDGE comes back - and any queued data should be there. That is true for EMAIL, and is likely true for push notifications.
The author took the fact that you can't have simultaneous EDGE+voice and made a sensational article saying that if you *enable* "push" notifications (a global on/off setting), you will no longer be able to receive any phone calls. This is a MUCH bigger problem than possibly losing some packets of data during a phone call - it's claiming that your *phone* will stop being a *phone* if you enable "push".
It's just like claiming that having EMAIL enabled will disable voice calls - ridiculous.
Completely inaccurate, and sensationalism.
It's good that the article is no longer on the front page - even though the 'editors note' was a bit weak.
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/07/mobileme-launch-date-set-july-9th-at-6-p-m-pt/
Cory, that's you posting about MobileMe switching from .Mac. Everyone knows MobileMe can push to any iPhone. This has NEVER been an issue whatsoever.
And that editor's note is an insulting copout. It was a factually incorrect article, and there is no reason to preserve it in its original form. Just get rid of it before it spreads.
Our editorial policy says that once a post is published, it's published -- we don't delete them, we will correct them.
June 17 2009 at 12:41 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyUmmm, no. I have an original iphone that's been running 3.0 for every beta. I've tested push on both the beta AP app and the beta AIM app, neither of which interfered with receiving or sending voice calls. I actually used the AIM app quite a bit to see if it could replace SMS with push. This article is quite simply wrong and irresponsible.
June 17 2009 at 12:26 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyuhmm.. so could you replace sms with it?
I just think it would be funny to see peoples reactions if this turned out to be true haha..
but I really doubt it..
maybe he thought it was April first..
ill still read tuaw though.. I think everyone is making this huge...
but if tuaw doesn't improve then uhh .. yea sry..
What a crap Editor's Note too. It won't affect most iPhones? It won't affect ANY. You guys are taking readers for granted, there's a plethora of Apple blogs out there, and I have half a mind to delete you from my RSS reader. Retract the entire article!
June 17 2009 at 12:25 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThey need to completely retract this - not just put an editors note, people can still get the wrong idea just by the title.
June 17 2009 at 12:23 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySorry Cory. Exchange push email works fine on the original iphone and is not a specific cause of lost calls. In fact an incoming call on the original iphone cancels a data transfer. I am not buying the lost data issue either. I could accept that a particular application poorly handling notifications but, without intimate knowledge of their infrastructure, I am sure that some sort of message queue is used and the service is not dependant on real-time push to a mobile device that could be in an unserviceable state due to any number of, obvious, conditions. (battery, out of area, airplane mode etc.)
One can fault apple for a number of things, but stupidity is not one of them.
Source your material or do something else.
Cory Bohon is a moron. I'd just like to echo all the previous commenters who have been using the 3.0 firmware on a first gen iPhone with push notifications and voice calls.
Do some fscking research and/or testing before you click publish. WTF
i was just about to throw my iPhone out the window until i read all of the comments. phew.
June 17 2009 at 12:20 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyCory,
Did someone hack into your account? I can't believe a smart guy like you would post such nonsense! Please either chime in in comments or update/recall the article.
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