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I heart my Apple TV, but as for 3.0 ...

As we learned yesterday, not everyone loves the update to Apple TV.

For me, however, the upgrade was an improvement to an adequate piece of hardware -- when it chose to work. By mid-afternoon, I was listening to classical music being streamed over Internet radio, and I was very happy with the Apple TV for the most part. The flagship new features -- iTunes Extras and iTunes LPs -- were finicky and hard to work. Trying to navigate through iTunes Extras was akin to herding cats. When it works, it's fantastic. When it doesn't, you want to hurl something at the wall.

I'm quite the opposite of fellow blogger Steve Sande when it comes to the Apple TV. I chose the device over getting cable back in February. I promptly did the hacks to open up the USB port and utilize Boxee (with Hulu) and XBMC. Please note that these hacks will be wiped when you upgrade to 3.0.

I frequently use it because it became the perfect home for streaming content from first an external hard drive, then my new iMac. I'm an anime fan, and used the chance to rip my DVDs to my hard drive and have all the episodes in one place. It's very nice not to have to get up and change DVDs after every 3-4 episodes. I also stream YouTube content and play music over it.

Here's a look at some of the new features:
If you're going to use Apple TV and have an iPhone or iPod touch, do yourself a huge favor and get the free Remote app [iTunes Link]. You will get a lot more mileage out of the device because it makes it so incredibly easy to navigate through the system. If you have the Remote app, be sure to upgrade it when you install 3.0. You'll thank yourself for it.

Speaking of navigation, I'm very pleased with the new layout of 3.0. Everything is right there for your immediate perusal and responsiveness is much, much quicker than with previous versions of the software. This was something Steve noticed himself, and seems to be getting an overall positive nod from those who've tried out the update.

I bought my second-ever movie over iTunes to play with the extras. I wasn't very happy with the initial selection. Most of the movies I wouldn't care to own, and if I ever downloaded Twilight I'd have to burn the hardware. So, I went with Wall-E, a favorite of mine. If you've already purchased movies and want to watch them over Apple TV, you need to download a new version of the extras -- same goes for iTunes LPs. I followed this handy advice from iLounge and synced the movie plus extras directly to the Apple TV's hard drive.

Then the fun began. At first, it felt like I was really going through a DVD. Wall-E's extras aren't all of the ones included with the DVD, such as the free Pixar short, but it was still a lot. There was also content specific to iTunes that was a nice bonus. You could easily spend a couple hours going through all the extras. But, then, I got stuck on the extras sub-menu and couldn't navigate away. I got the movie to play, but when I exited out of it, it took me back to that persnickety menu. I dug out my small white Apple remote and used it. Nothing. I used the Remote app to jump to an anime episode under the TV menu. It streamed, but the music from the Wall-E extras played over it as well. When I exited out of the show, it took me straight back to the iTunes Extras submenu. I finally had to unplug the Apple TV just to get out of the movie. I tried again, using just the Apple remote, got stuck once more, and gave up. I later tried resyncing the extras, but iTunes froze and I had to abort the task.

Internet radio was a different story entirely. Browsing and connecting to stations was a breeze and I've had music playing in the background for most of the past day. Genius Mixes were equally easy. If I had iTunes connected, music was selected from my entire library. If iTunes was closed, it utilized music just available on the Apple TV hard drive.

When struggling with iTunes Extras, I noticed a tab under my Apple TV settings in iTunes for iTunes U. I downloaded a class and synced it over, fully expecting to see an iTunes U tab for the Apple TV. Nada. I sighed, and rebooted both iTunes and the Apple TV. Still nothing. It took going back to iLounge to find out that the iTunes U content is lumped in under your Movies and Music depending on the class content. I'm extremely disappointed that iTunes U didn't get its own menu somewhere in the upgrade.

Overall, the upgrade is a mixed bag. It's a lot easier to navigate through the menus of the device. Internet radio is such a beautiful thing, and those two improvements alone are worth the upgrade. Provided Apple can work out the kinks with iTunes Extras, I see this definitely driving more people toward downloading some movies versus DVD. But, for now, if you want to play with Extras, do so through iTunes itself. In the meantime, I'm eager to see how third-party developers will add their own flavor to this upgrade. Who knows, maybe in the process they might be able to fix iTunes Extras.

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Chris

Getting to the heart of what Megan wrote - the problems this release is having (and the continued limitations of the software) - the buggy implementation of iTunes extras and LP mode. I've run into them too since upgrading to 3.0.

The problem seems to be that Apple doesn't properly beta test. Sure, they do developer releases (do they for the AppleTV tho?); but they don't do public beta tests, with proper feedback. I've long since learned that any x.0 release, and most x.x releases are Apple's unofficial public beta test software releases, and usually I wait until a x.x1 comes out before installing (my standard practice with iTunes for sure - every major release has had issues in our home).

Don't even get me started on the constant crippling of the AppleTV (or iTunes) for that matter. I've long since given up hope for support of .avi, .wmv (ha!), and other container/codecs that are otherwise the industry standard. Hoping the USB port would be opened up with this release was a pipedream too. At the very least, I'd like to see native support for USB hard drives to bump the 160gb storage the device has. Support for up and coming online net streams like ustream or even vimeo would be a nice boon as well.

I don't personally need a pvr experience with the AppleTV. I'd just like the device to be completely internet-aware, able to play most online media, support for external hard drives, and I'd like to be able to play and stream 720p content that isn't always just Apple endorsed or encoded.

One positive - at least with this release, your own content is at the top of the menu lists (though they still default to the second items - iTunes Store links).

November 02 2009 at 5:23 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
raleedy

Two words: Netflix.

October 31 2009 at 5:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
AppleZilla

It's a nice piece of technology, but until it's 1080, it's a 'hobby.'

October 31 2009 at 2:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Scout

I am a big fan of the apple tv. Have two plus got two more for my kids. Great syncing device and something my wife can use effortlessly.
I have one question though.

Can you upgrade previously purchased movie to I tunes plus?

October 31 2009 at 1:29 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Eideard

One thing that geezers still do - after finishing a download/upgrade, even if it reboots - reboot, again after a few minutes.

Jostle all those wee cybergrains of software sand right into place.

I do it even with upgrades to the OS of my DirecTV HD-DVR.

October 31 2009 at 10:02 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
granny

My husband is legally blind, but he can see our photos on our big-screen TV via Apple TV. I love to put albums together for us to watch...especially old photos of us, the kids, the grandkids...you get the picture.

October 31 2009 at 9:45 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
pleasureprincipal

I "heart"... I "heart"...? WTF. By all means insert a graphical heart symbol if you are so desperate to emulate a decades-old advertising slogan in a forlorn effort to sound fashionable. But how can you "heart" anything? A heart is a noun, not a verb. What a pathetic effort, that in fact marks the writer as sub-literate. Truly sad.

October 31 2009 at 7:46 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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MadHat

I hate 3.0, it's EVEN MORE laggy (which I find hard to believe) than before...

October 31 2009 at 6:24 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
now4real954

@Megan

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

I so enjoy pretty much ALL of your articles...you actually say something and it has meaning...even if it not the way I feel myself...

thank you for making a real article on the TV

thank you

October 30 2009 at 11:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
cyberviking

I definitely like my AppleTV and the 3.0 update. I think it's not an issue if a MacMini is better or not... I use a Mini as house server (for printers, sharing other stuff, as download point for podcasts etc) hooked up to a couple of external terabytes. The AppleTV as well as our MacBooks, iPods and iPhones also all connect, share, etc. As for content, it's a real drawback that movies on iTunes are not available in Ireland (yet). OTH, I have so much own content and stuff from students and colleagues so there's not enough days in a year to watch it all.
I would really like if Apple produced a proper free gesture controller for navigating and controlling the AppleTV - this would be especially useful if your scrubbing through video to find specific sections.

October 30 2009 at 11:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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