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I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions in this thread regarding tabbed text editors. Unfortunately, nothing is exactly *IT* - but I’ve been using TextWrangler over the weekend and I think it will end up in my arsenal anyway, even though it’s not technically everything I’m looking for. The drop-down menu for accessing files instead of tabs is a close second. Plus, you can’t beat free. :)

But I have yet another question for your collective knowledge wisdom. The fatal flaw with keeping text files of notes is that, once you close them, you can’t search them. I know that Spotlight will address this, but gol-darnit, I hate waiting. On the other hand, the fatal flaw with knowledge collectors like DevonThink and StickyBrain is that they keep your files in proprietary databases that you have to remember to backup and/or export periodically. Try as I might, I can never seem to ‘remember’ to do these sorts of periodic actions.

So my new question is two-fold: are there any note collector/research-oriented apps that collect and store files in standard formats, yet keep them always searchable? Part two is: are there any note-taking apps that allow you to organize your notes by tagging them instead of by placing them in hierarchies? By tagging I mean an easy way to attach any number of non-hierarchical attributes to a note, the way that Flickr and del.icio.us allow you to do. If something like this exists for OS X, I would probably switch to it in a heartbeat.

Again, thanks in advance for any suggestions!



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jeeves

no one's mentioned using quicksilver for document searching/indexing else voodoo pad and notational velocity look like your best picks

February 15 2005 at 6:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
barb dybwad

@#10: Andy, KIT is awesome, awesome, awesome. I can't believe I never ran across it before. I can use the comments section to essentially do tagging, and the smart groups function... oh, I am in heaven! It lacks one feature I realize is becoming increasingly essential: not just search, but *browse* by tags. But it's close enough. I'm totally using it. @#11: No offense, but I have no love for Filemaker. If I'm going to build my own database for this, I may as well do it online with PHP/mySQL. Which I started doing a while ago, had to abandon for lack of time, and may pick up again. @#12: I love VoodooPad too and recommended it here for Freeware February. But yet, the problem with this and the series of online wikis I've had is that they don't scale well, and once the dataset becomes very large (which doesn't take long), I find it difficult to refactor... and boring to refactor. This isn't neccessarily particular to wikis - I find almost everything very difficult in the refactoring department, but still. @#13: Erik, I just last night accidentally stumbled on a piece of software from the makers of DevonThink that basically does this and more via a GUI: EasyFind. It's free, so it will most definitely be covered soon enough for Freeware Feb! :)

February 15 2005 at 1:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Erik Weibust

How about you use any app you want for writing your notes. Then if you're comfortable using the cmd-line you use a simple alias like: $ alias SearchTextFiles='find ~/Documents -name "*.txt" -print | xargs grep ' Once you have the alias just give it the string you want to search for. I love searching from the cmd-line. My take is it's much more powerful. $ SearchTextFiles junk ./file1.txt:this is some junk. ./file2.txt:junk, junk, junk. You get the point.

February 15 2005 at 12:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mark Mayo

VoodooPad probably fits the bill. It lets you build your own little wikis and link pages together. And it's searchable. And they make it easy to dump your data out into a bunch of formats for safe keeping. Creating linked pages is effortless. I just love it to bits. http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad.html

February 15 2005 at 4:35 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Steve

If you have FileMaker Pro, you can set up a database for your notes.

February 14 2005 at 10:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Andy Fragen

If you can't wait for Spotlight you might want to look at KIT. http://www.reinventedsoftware.com/kit/index.html

February 14 2005 at 7:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Scott Ahten

I recommend Tinderbox as well. It can seem strange at first, but once you "get it" you'll find it really handy for taking notes, etc. And you can search though things quickly. You can also create "agents" that can scan though your notes and build meta notes or lists automatically. Things get really interesting when you take the time to play around with it's export features. You can create something simple like a web page or something as complex as an entire weblog, including links, navigation, archives, etc.

February 14 2005 at 7:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Paul Turnbull

I use DevonThink despite it's storage method because now that I have a couple of thousand documents it handles the categorization for me. It's not exactly tagging but you can group a single document in DT into multiple groups. While I use DT for storage of articles and other third-party material I use Tinderbox for my own writing. I've set up a Category attribute that use for tagging. I just comma-delimit the tags. If you want a DT style app that stores everything accessibly you could look at Hog Bay Notebook. It stores notes as RTFs inside a bundle.

February 14 2005 at 5:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Michele

While it doesn't explictily support tagging, I do quite well with Notational Velocity http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~zps869/nv.html it's tiny, fast and to the point: just store and search text in there, with appropriate keyboard shortcuts.

February 14 2005 at 2:46 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
David

> On the other hand, the fatal flaw with knowledge > collectors like DevonThink and StickyBrain is that they > keep your files in proprietary databases that you have > to remember to backup and/or export periodically. Try > as I might, I can never seem to remember to do these > sorts of periodic actions. (NOTE: I haven't used either app) Are they AppleScript friendly? If so it'd probably take about 30 minutes of minor hacking to make a script that will export/backup/whatever you need. Once you've done that, go hack up /etc/crontab so that your Mac will remember to backup your data and you won't have to. To get a backup every Friday (say) you'd need to add a line like this to /etc/crontab: 0 0 * * Fri root osascript < path to your script > Just my $0.02

February 14 2005 at 2:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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