No IE in Tiger
Well, imagine that! You end-of-life a program on the Mac and BOOM, Apple stops including it with the release of their newest OS. According to readers of Accelerate Your Macintosh, who received their copies of Tiger early, there is no Internet Explorer included in the installation.My take: thank you, Apple! I don't have much use for a browser that U.S.-CERT considers a risk.
There's also unconfirmed rumblings that both Stuffit Expander and Acrobat Reader are missing from Tiger as well. Can anybody confirm?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
froopyloot said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Hey... you got a copy already, din't cha?
~m
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Blair Robinson said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
could it possibly be that ever so subtle firefox logo? And honestly I have had a ibook for about 6 months now and I've never loaded IE, and wouldn't see why anyone would.
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Pedro said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
that DRM is evil?
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dorco said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
If they take out IE, they'll have to call it TGR
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Daniel Bergey said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Perhaps he's intending to imply that Firefox is bundled with Tiger instead of IE. Would that I knew for sure. :)
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C.K. Sample, III said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
dorco: LOL
Daniel, it would be cool if Firefox WERE included instead of IE, but that, alas, is not what I was trying to convey.
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Chris said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
You're not getting me. Sure, firefox is nice. Heck, I used it when it was called phoenix 0.5 But I have a Mac now and Safari.
I think the one thing people always say to boost firefox to mac people is that firefox has extensions. That's nice. I don't need them. Just as I prefer to keep my gadgets separated I prefer to keep my apps separated.
You have all your extensions to do things for you? I have separate little apps to do things for me.
so, quit trying to get me to switch to firefox. It's not gonna happen. I fire up firefox once in a while to check a design then I head right back to safari.
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John Man said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Acrobat Reader isn't part of Panther ?!?
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RP said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Does this mean that Safari's debug menu will not allow you to use the Mac IE setting?
Dose it have to do with the capitalized and bolded BOOM?
Tell us!!!
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Gregory Wostrel said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Acrobat Reader is not *exactly* part of Panther. But the excellent (and much less bloated) Preview is most definitely. 90% of the time I prefer Preview.
My question about the lack of IE in Tiger is what about the ubiquitous web fonts that are installed along with IE? That would be: Arial, Verdana, Georgia, Trebuchut MS and (I think) Times New Roman. If one did a clean install of Panther, for example, and selected to not install IE from the get go those fonts would be absent. A bit of a problem as almost every web site specs one of those as its main font selection. MS used to make them all available (they developed them, after all) on their site, but no longer. I made sure to get a clean copy when I first heard about it a year or so ago. But what about now, if they are not present?
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Jesse Griffith said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
I've installed Tiger on a fresh drive. Reader and Expander are missing from the installation.
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Daniel Andrews said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
The only thing I still use IE:Mac for is testing for the few souls who haven't found out about Safari, Camino, Firefox, Omniweb, Opera, Shiira, or any other browser worth a damn.
The sooner that browser is a distant memory, the better.
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paul said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
If Stuffit is missing, what is used to open .sit files and .zip files?
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Travis said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Just download stuffit off their website paul.
I'm glad IE is gone, on every mac i have that's the first thing to go. Its old, and by far the worst browser ever created. Smart move apple. :D
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Art said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
"...by far the worst browser ever created."
Get real! When it first came out, admittedly eons ago, it was by far the best browser ever created. It had features no other browser offered (both in user interface and internet capabilities). Yes, the internet and other browsers have passed it up as of the last 2-3 years; but it would be like calling the Ford "Model T" by far the worst car ever created. Wrong, it was the best for it's time... just not up to today's standards.
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Kevin Ballard said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Hey Paul and Al - Panther introduced native support for zip files, this means both zipping and unzipping. It's quite possible that you had StuffIt set to handle unzipping files under Panther (if this is so, that's kinda silly, because it's faster to use the native unzipping then to launch StuffIt Expander, in my experience).
And Paul, it's quite easy to get your hands on a copy of StuffIt expander, seeing how it's available for free from their website (you have to downloads StuffIt Standard, but StuffIt expander is part of the download and can be used for free without touching the rest of StuffIt Standard)
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Matt said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
"Thank you Apple!"
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Douglass said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
> And honestly I have had a ibook for about 6 months
> now and I've never loaded IE, and wouldn't see why
> anyone would.
My only reason for keeping it around is printing. IE's print preview allows for resizing text and selecting which elements, if any, will be included in the print/PDF: Date, URL, Title, or Background Images. If/when Safari includes those features, IE will be gone.
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mike said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Not to be the devil's advocate, but IE's Scrapbook feature was awesome, what else accomplishes the same thing as easily? I actually really liked it most cuz the windows version of IE didn't have it.
On a somewhat related note, would someone please explain to me why the @#$# the windows version of IE can't fit a @#$# webpage on 1 page width when you print? Is that sooo hard? Stupid windows.
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Mike said 4:17PM on 6-16-2005
Did Tiger fix Sherlock?
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