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Daring Fireball logoJohn Gruber,  one of my favorite Mac web writers (right behind C.K.) has discovered something in  Apple's Universal Binary Programming Guidelines that may worry some people. Intel Macs will not support Classic in any way, shape, or form.

This doesn't worry me because as soon as I got my first copy of OS X (the beta) I uninstalled Classic. I had seen the future and I didn't want to look back. However, some people with legacy apps should really get on the ball and upgrade your apps (if you can).

Is anyone out there still depending on Classic for mission critical apps?
 

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John Gruber,  one of my favorite Mac web writers (right behind C.K.) has discovered something in  Apple's Universal Binary...
 

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Bob Hunt

The Engineered Software product for ClarisCAD translations is called PowerDraw Translator, not Power Drawing. Sold for $295 in mid-2005. You can review or download a demo of PowerCADD at: http://www.engsw.com/webpage_content.html But for some reason PowerDraw Translator is not listed on their site, you'll have to contact Engineered Software directly. Bob

June 28 2005 at 1:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bob Hunt

The Engineered Software product for ClarisCAD translations is called PowerDraw Translator, not Power Drawing. Sold for $295 in mid-2005. You can review or download a demo of PowerCADD at: http://www.engsw.com/webpage_content.html But for some reason PowerDraw Translator is not listed on their site, you'll have to contact Engineered Software directly. Bob

June 28 2005 at 1:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bob Hunt

Many Mac users in technical design used ClarisCAD to create thousands of engineering drawings, because it was so much easier to use than existing CAD programs in the 80s, yet had enough power to do some really fine work. I discovered how many people are stuck in this abandoned format while searching for a way to get my own mass of work translated to something that would be easier to share with non-Mac platforms. Finally came across an almost seamless solution that cannot be done without access to Classic or a System 9 or lower machine. PowerCADD is a great OS X drafting program, what ClarisCAD could have been had it continued to evolve -- or ever started to evolve to be more accurate. An element of a pre-OS X version of PowerCADD called Power Drawing translates ClarisCAD and MacDraw files into PowerCADD format almost flawlessly. Power Drawing requires System 9.2 or lower and remains available now only because the developer, Engineered Software, is aware of the many people and organizations that need a way out of ClarisCAD. The translations done in 9.2 can then be opened in OS X, including Tiger. You can certainly translate on an old machine and transfer the results to Tiger on a newer one It's just a heck of a lot faster and easier to do both jobs on one computer, especially in bulk. Bob

June 28 2005 at 1:39 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Art Busbey

Unfortunately geologists who use Macs for geological purposes will suffer greatly with the loss of Classic. During the late 80's and through the late 90's there were still a number of Macs in the earth sciences world. With no support from Apple the number of vendors making earth-science specific software for Macs shrank along with the audience. During this time three major geological mapping programs were produced, MacCadContour, Surface II and MacGridzo. These are all classic-only (the companies that made them are either long gone or they stopped making Mac software) aps that have no modern counterparts - they support very specialized functionality required in geological mapping. So.. yes.. the loss of Classic will, at the last, cause us to keep a fleeting of aging non-Intel computers around for years. I just hope that someone else comes up with a viable Classic emulator for the Mactel machines.

June 21 2005 at 3:23 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
macsweep

There is no development for Folio Views period. I have looked for four years for a Mac OS X replcement, but with ZERO success. I use Folio Views almost daily.

June 13 2005 at 3:27 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dennis

re GReg: http://www.silhouetteonline.com/ Should solve your vectorization needs.

June 09 2005 at 2:30 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Gregory Cohen

As to the writer who suggests indesign as an upgrade path from pagemaker ... don't. It's not that great and always needs a lot of tweaks if you use the upgrade path. My mission critical pair of packages are Adobie Streamline and Fontographer. They have never come out with an OSX version of those, and they still sell the OS 9 versions (Works fine under emulation). I kow of other font editing packages I could in theory move to, but I don't know of any other tracing packages for OS X. Any help anyone? -GReg

June 08 2005 at 6:46 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ToeKnee

I have used Pagemaker since 1988, version 2, when it was made by Aldus, before they were assimilated by Adobe. They dropped Pagemaker at version 7. I have literally thousands of files I need to get into once in a while, but since I do very little layout anymore, it's not worth buying InDesign to import the Pagemaker files. So, I guess I'll just keep an old iMac around for this purpose. But it's no big deal. I have a ton of old computers around here. I think I'm up to three iMacs and various older pre-G3 Powermacs. I will miss OS 9, though. It still does a few things better, though I much prefer OS X.

June 08 2005 at 1:03 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
re quired

ClarisDraw - nothing out there imports those drawings yet.

June 07 2005 at 5:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
fbd

eClass grades. That means that the school where I work will need to switch to a new school management system. This should cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $100k. Very expensive upgrade. Oh well... we were planning on it in a few years anyway. This will simply force the issue in the board of ed.

June 07 2005 at 1:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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