WebObjects 5.3 developer tools free with Tiger

I agree Daniel and selling WebObjects to clients as a result of the poor market visibility in very difficult. Q: What other development tools would be similar to WebObjects, but easier to sell to clients? Thanks in advance!

Wow, I just saved some bucks. I have WO 4.2 but haven't done much with it as it isn't very user friendly. I was about to purchase WO to fool around with. WO is another shining example of Apple's extremely poor sales & marketing. 5 years ago nothing was even close to WO - and WO was cross platform. Yet, I couldn't find a single developer who had ever even heard of WO. Of course when I described WO they were very interested. Now there are 5+ similar WO products out there making billions of $. Almost criminal.

Thanks Apple for making WebObjects free as part of the Xcode distribution. I'm sure starting with 5.3 and beyond we will once again start seeing WebObjects move forward. I would welcome WebObjects to be released under an open source license. I've seen many WebObjects projects switch to open source alternatives even though WebObjects is superior. Many clients seem to not have a problem with open source libraries. So I think that an open source WebObjects would help with its adoption in those scenarios.

I also think that it would help if Xcode used ant to build WebObjects apps and frameworks because ant is cross platform and very popular.

Thanks Apple for making WebObjects free as part of the Xcode distribution. I'm sure starting with 5.3 and beyond we will once again start seeing WebObjects move forward. I would welcome WebObjects to be released under an open source license. I've seen many WebObjects projects switch to open source alternatives even though WebObjects is superior. Many clients seem to not have a problem with open source libraries. So I think that an open source WebObjects would help with its adoption in those scenarios.

I wouldn't say Dell's site is easy to use. In my opinion, it is fairly un-navigable (if that's a word!). That's not the fault of Webobjects or the app server, though. Kudos to Apple for making WO dev tools free!!

AAA (the auto club, not the escort service) runs its site on WebObjects, and back when WO was a part of NeXT (anyone remember them?) a little computer company known as Dell actually used the platform to run their e-commerce site. So, in a way, Steve Jobs is the "father" of Dell's "easy" to use website for ordering el-cheapo PC's. Nooooo! That's not true! That's impossible! Same things I was saying about an Intel switch a few days ago. I'm better now.