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DRM on Mactel Machines?

kill drm deadkill drm deadkill drm deadI think I'll save most of my ranting about this for the podcast (which should be coming next Monday, and it should be an actual podcast available in the iTMS and everything; keep your fingers crossed), but I just wanted to point you all to some very disheartening news: it looks like Apple is going to add Trusted Computing to the new OS X, Intel-savvy kernel. What's wrong with that you ask?

Well, Cory covers this part nicely: "The point of Trusted Computing is to make it hard -- impossible, if you believe the snake-oil salesmen from the Trusted Computing world -- to open a document in a player other than the one that wrote it in the first place, unless the application vendor authorizes it.... It's like a web-site that you can only load in the browser that the author intended it to be seen in. ... What this means is that 'open formats' is no longer meaningful." As far as I am concerned, if Apple goes live with this on the new Macs, it'll be the worst move they've ever made.

Make sure you check out the /. thread where this info originally emerged. I'm sort of speechless about the whole thing. Why does bad news always come at the beginning of the month? Anyway, I wrote a poem about how this makes me feel:

Kill DRM Dead, a poem by C.K. Sample, III:

Have I ever told you that I hate you, DRM?

I do. I hate you, DRM. You ruin everything. You make everything more difficult. You break apart the sharing goodness that makes society flow. I hate you. Die, DRM. Die.


 

I think I'll save most of my ranting about this for the podcast (which should be coming next Monday, and it should be an actual podcast...
 

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So what's going to happen with my purchased music (let's say in 5 or 6 years from now), when I'll have burned my music on 4 CDs (which might not even be readable at that time) and I will have "authorize" my 4 old PPC computers and then get a new one? I wont be able to listen to my legally purchased music anymore? Do I really own the music I buy ??? (sorry for my English, but you get the point).

August 31 2005 at 12:25 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ben

This is kind of off topic but does anyone have an estimate to when osx for intel is going to be released?

August 19 2005 at 9:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
johnwillo

So DRM is bad, because it "entangles" your content. I can understand that. I'd rather not have DRM on my files, too. My point was simply that you cannot say that DRM doesn't work just because some people circumvent it. If the vast majority can't circumvent it, or don't care enough to go to the effort to circumvent it, it is working as far as the content provider is concerned. This is not a statement on whether DRM is right or wrong.

August 02 2005 at 2:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
J Carvalhinho

"They will not pass music on casually to their friends, because the DRM makes it inconvenient to do so." In the future when you download an "iflick" to your computer sitting in the office, and won't be abble to play it on your networked Kiss player in the living room, cos it hasn't got DRM, we will be back to this... But you will be on the other side, either bragging you know how to circumvent the protection (hence forcing upon you to do and ilegal action on your content), or bitching against an impossibility of fair usage... Any means Of entanglement of content is bad for "my father" ... specially when is imposed by companies who do nothing different of what my grocers do with my vegetables, just choose the producer and distributte them... would you like to see that your carrots can only be cut with a brandXkniffe? what would you do with your spanking new Ginshu knife?!?!?

August 02 2005 at 7:38 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
J Carvalhinho

"They will not pass music on casually to their friends, because the DRM makes it inconvenient to do so." In the future when you download an "iflick" to your computer sitting in the office, and won't be abble to play it on your networked Kiss player in the living room, cos it hasn't got DRM, we will be back to this... But you will be on the other side, either bragging you know how to circumvent the protection (hence forcing upon you to do and ilegal action on your content), or bitching against an impossibility of fair usage... Any means Of entanglement of content is bad for "my father" ... specially when is imposed by companies who do nothing different of what my grocers do with my vegetables, just choose the producer and distributte them... would you like to see that your carrots can only be cut with a brandXkniffe? what would you do with your spanking new Ginshu knife?!?!?

August 02 2005 at 6:21 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
johnwillo

I think you're wrong when you say that DRM doesn't work, just because it can be hacked. The point of DRM is not to make piracy impossible, but to make it impractical for the casual user. The average iTMS shopper has no idea how to circumvent the copy protection there, and probably wouldn't care to go to the effort if they did. They will not pass music on casually to their friends, because the DRM makes it inconvenient to do so. At this point, I think that the only conclusion that we can draw about Mac OS X Intel and DRM is that Apple doesn't want the beta OS spreading across the net on non-Apple hardware. I can't blame them for that.

August 02 2005 at 1:11 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rob Knight

Wow, you go on vacation for 4 days and all of the sudden C.K. is Stalin? I think the point of DRM that sucks is that power users find ways around it, while Joe User gets shafted by the dumber applications of it (iPhoto slideshows w/music and iTunes shared music libraries). While we don't yet know how DRM will be applied in the MacIntel boxes, C.K.'s point is valid. We should be talking about acceptable applications of hardware DRM so we aren't stuck with DRM in stupid places on our cherished new Macs.

August 02 2005 at 1:01 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
wheels

Personally, I like TUAW because everybody seems to be passionate about things, and they're not afraid to express their own opinion. It's a breath of fresh air. Is DRM a bad thing? It could be if we as consumers let it get out of control. And, trust me, it is up to us. The ITMS DRM does concern me a bit because there are certain instances where the consumer end of the agreement cannot be held up. For example, I cannot burn music cds with my current hardware/software setup. Even though this fact raises my ire, I know that this could be easily corrected if I bought a new CD burner. Also, I rarely burn any audio CDs because I use my iPod exclusively to listen to digital music, so this hinderance is not a big deal. Still it's an hinderance on the my rights and it should raise some concern. Should we be scared that Apple's announcing (maybe) that they're putting DRM on Intel Macs. No. As it's been said in this thread, Apple's probably making sure that their OS will work on their hardware only. Can you blame them? I don't. They've been enjoying a kind of a DRM like this over the years anyway, since their OS has been PPC only, and they don't license companies to make compatible clones [anymore]. They just want to control what's justifiably theirs. In the end that'll protect us as apple users. Will DRM be used to the extent that Cory says it will? Absolutely not; it will turn back the computer industry 20 years and will be deemed as un-consumer friendly. You mean to say that html and RTF won't be universally read, as they are now, in the future? That's preposterous! DRM won't expand as the doom-sayers say it will. This will be especially true if we keep kicking, yelling, and griping at the first sign of trouble. Just because somebody's paranoid doesn't mean somebody isn't watching them. Keep up the good fight guys.

August 01 2005 at 8:21 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bruce

One big rumor that has been around for a while is Apple expanding the music store and selling movies there. Lots of people are expecting this to happen real soon now. Maybe Apple will roll this out when they can use Intel's DRM? I agree that DRM is generally bad, but on the other hand it may reduce the value of corporate controlled mass marketed media compared to locally produced independent media. Hopefully DRM will be a major inconvenience and economic hardship and cause people to turn away from Beverly Hillbillies reruns and go see a play or check out what local filmmakers are doing. The same applies with music.

August 01 2005 at 7:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bruce

"So, C.K., thanks for blowing your top and I wish that more people would." Yeah, because Mac users need to be seen as a group of loudmouthed hotheads who jump to conclusions in the absence of anything even remotely resembling facts.

August 01 2005 at 7:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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