Filed under: Macworld, TUAW Business
Why the hell does Dave Winer get a press pass for Macworld and we don't?
Dave Winer, known in some circles as the first blogger, the creator of RSS, and the man who invented Podcasting (or was that Adam Curry?) has gotten a press pass to cover Macworld. Hurrah for bloggers, right? Well, not so fast spanky. I'm a blogger, a blogger who covers Apple news obsessively on this very popular Apple blog, and did I get a press pass? Nope. Not only did I not get a press pass, I was rejected because there wasn't 'enough space.'If there's space for Winer, methinks there's space for TUAW. However, lest you think this is all about TUAW (which it is for the most part) we are in good company. According to this article at Applexnet we aren't the only Apple site to be denied media credentials but interestingly enough a few sites that work closely with IDG were able to get creds with no problem.
Is IDG punishing us for our less than flattering coverage of Macworld Boston? I can't say for sure, but IDG if you would like to change your mind and give me a press pass I'm easy to find.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
adam bucci said 9:46PM on 12-12-2005
nobody likes a w(h)iner.........
(get it?)
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Ty said 2:11AM on 12-13-2005
If anyone wants to get this problem a bit more attention, skip on over to digg, the story is posted here: http://digg.com/apple/The_End_Of_Mac_Media_MacWorld_Access
Personally I think that at least the bigger, legitimate blogs (like TUAW) should be granted press passes.
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XeRox said 10:12PM on 12-12-2005
You want some cheese with that wine? Here, cheer up with some quality humor on silly celebs and smurfs..
http://www.celluloidandvinyl.com
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Radu Dutzan said 10:19PM on 12-12-2005
I totally agree with you. How come a simple blogger blogging for himself has more right to cover SJ's keynote in MWSF than multiple bloggers blogging for the whole Apple community? C'mon, we want TUAW doing chatcasts and stuff on January! We want C.K. playing around with the new toys on the next video podcast!
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Kesey said 10:22PM on 12-12-2005
Yea, real professional post.
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Scott McNulty said 10:26PM on 12-12-2005
Ah, Kesey, we're 'edgy' you see. We tell it like it is, and what not.
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Nolen Makoto said 10:50PM on 12-12-2005
I tend to agree with Kesey. It's immature things like this that keep TUAW from being respected like it should be. I like the work you do here but childish crap like this (and your random loathing of Apple Insider) will keep you from the bigtime.
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Damien Barrett said 8:04PM on 12-13-2005
Not sure I'd call Winer's blogging style professional, and it's certainly not "newsy". He may have helped legitimize blogging back in its infancy, but he's also alienated a huge portion of the blogging community with his tendancy to make asinine comments and then delete them from his weblog, or his tendency to let his ego get in the way of allowing a technology to develop. His crazy-ass (no other word for it) attacks on other blogging luminaries have long convinced me that he's the worst kind of "reporter", allowing his personal biases to color how he tells a story. I can't deny that Winer has contributed to the weblog community and he generally has some great ideas, but I can't get past his antics. He's no more a "press journalist" than I'm a ballerina. And if you think that's just me being reactionary, you ought to see me in a tutu.
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Don Wilson said 11:14PM on 12-12-2005
This kind of post is the reason why you're not accepted to the event.
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Scott McNulty said 11:17PM on 12-12-2005
So, if I am to sense the trend here, we don't get a press pass because we post about the fact that our application was rejected yet someone who didn't get their request in as early as we did, and doesn't cover Apple exclusively, had no problem getting a pass?
Makes sense to me.
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Joshua Ochs said 1:17AM on 12-13-2005
I hate to agree with others here, but TUAW doesn't exactly have the same level of professionalism as many others like John Gruber, DrunkenBatman (no, I don't know his name), Dave Sircusa; heck, even Engadget tends to have professional, yet "edgy" coverage. While TUAW does have some great content, the signal to noise ratio is nowhere near high enough. There are numerous posts here that come off as nothing more than rants; frequently misinformed rants at that.
As for why Dave Winer got invited, I doubt it has anything to do with blogging, and the fact that while he *is* an asinine egomaniac, he has also been heavily involved in the Mac community for years via Userland Frontier (remember that?).
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Dustin said 11:24PM on 12-12-2005
Wow, I used to read and recommend TUAW regularly, but I guess I'll have to stop. I don't support unprofessional cry babies.
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adam Jackson said 11:28PM on 12-12-2005
i have writtten many things about MWSF and my opinions i'm mypersonalgetaway one of those that was denied
http://www.mypersonalgetaway.com/comments.php?id=1121_0_1_0_C
http://www.mypersonalgetaway.com/comments.php?id=678_0_1_0_C
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G said 11:27PM on 12-12-2005
I thought Dave Winer was god, that's why.
/end sarcasm
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Wheels said 1:21AM on 12-13-2005
"7. I tend to agree with Kesey. It's immature things like this that keep TUAW from being respected like it should be. I like the work you do here but childish crap like this (and your random loathing of Apple Insider) will keep you from the bigtime."
Oh, grow up!
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Jeff said 12:26AM on 12-13-2005
I could have swore I left a comment on this post...
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Mojo said 1:01AM on 12-13-2005
What's the difference between a site like, say, powerpage.org and TUAW beside, what, the software used for posting updates?
I visit TUAW several times a day and love it as opposed to PP which has really gone down the tubes in the last year or so.
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kg said 1:36AM on 12-13-2005
"Well, it is a small program that will represent any phone number you give it in digits and words make up from the digits in the number."
*Ducking and running... *
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Mojo said 1:06AM on 12-13-2005
Seems like a legitimate post to me.
You critics say it's not "professional" for TUAW to question IDG's motives for denying a press pass, but it's okay for IDG to enforce petty vendettas against people who don't gush over their lame shows in exchange for some cheap swag?
Ya, okay.
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some dude said 2:10AM on 12-13-2005
Two points I'd like to make:
1. TUAW is the biggest (only?) Apple blog in the Weblogs, Inc., network...which is a pretty hefty blogging organization. In fact, AOL paid $25 MILLION to purchase it. A little blog named Engadget also happens to be a part of Weblogs, Inc.
2. For those who complain about the writing here...you have to remember that we come to blogs for the human voice of the individuals who post to them. If I wanted a dispassionate perspective, I'd stick to the AP, CNET, Reuters, et al.
Hope to hear your report from Macworld, Scotty...
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