Karelia: &quot;Lightning has indeed struck twice&quot;

This has got to be frustrating. In an attempt to avoid a repeat of the Watson/Sherlock debacle, the folks at Karelia Software made an earlier-than-originally-planned public beta release of Sandvox available. Sandvox is a super-simple, WYSIWYG web editor that makes web site construction easy and fun. Sound a little like iWeb? I realize that no one has the exclusive rights to web editors, but the timing here is really unfortunate. From the Sandvox blog:

"...some of the biggest limitations of iWeb (.mac only, not pluggable, no ability for HTML content) can become strengths for Sandvox. As we move forward past version 1.0, we will be able to further distinguish Sandvox from iWeb by focusing on features that our users demand that will never be a part of the iLife suite." Competition of this sort usually drives the production of better products. I, for one, am looking forward to what Karelia has in store.

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Exporting your site to a folder then uploading it... this sounds awful, especially when rapidweaver integrates ftp. Sandvox templates are ugly, i don't understand what the fuss is all about. iWeb obviously ditches ftp support to promote .mac: that's what's going to kill the app.

January 14 2006 at 9:10 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Oliver

RapidWeaver (http://www.realmacsoftware) is still the weapon of choice. In the current 3.2.1 version it is pretty stable and doesn't have the "new product" blues like iWeb will have (not to mention the catastrophic Sandvox).

Cheers

January 14 2006 at 5:08 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Nathan Adams

When Apple was looking to develop iTunes, they went to Panic first. Except they didn't show for their meeting, so Apple went with their second choice - Soundjam.

And Apple did offer to hire the Karelia mob after Watson, but they turned it down.

January 14 2006 at 12:00 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Radu Dutzan

You know, Panic said something like that when iTunes came out. now you see where Audion is (in a retirement house)

January 13 2006 at 9:40 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

kc!

It is not like Sandvox was all that original to begin with... I mean the idea of a simple, easy-to-use, WYSIWYG web editor has been around for quite a while now, right?

However, I think that Apple should just hire the Karelia folks already! Aside from the obvious good will that it would generate, they are both thinking about the same innovations at the same time and imagine what Karelia brains would be able to produce with Apple resources and bandwidth!?

January 13 2006 at 11:56 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

B Crandall

"Does iWeb give you the opportunity to view HTML and CSS?"

No, the software was intended for people without developer/programmer/coding experience.

January 13 2006 at 11:40 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

neal

I agree with Dalton. It sounds like Karelia's whining this time. Sandvox, and iWeb for that matter, isn't exactly a revolutionary idea in software.

January 13 2006 at 11:38 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Dalton

It seems like both of these products are remarkably similar to RapidWeaver, no?

January 13 2006 at 11:11 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Nathan Adams

spk - from what I've read, all the css is inline.
so not the cleanest, if you want to go editing afterwards by hand, but they do validate as xhtml transitional.

As for Karelia - when did they originally announce Sandvox? Software certainly doesn't get developed overnight, iWeb would have been in development for quite some time.

January 13 2006 at 11:11 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply

Tony Scida

Kevin,
Who said "copycat?"

January 13 2006 at 10:37 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply