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Is the Mail.app look being copied too much?


Fraser Speirs, developer of apps like FlickrExport and Xjournal, posed an interesting issue on his blog the other day: is the general look and UI of Mail.app being duplicated by too many other developers? Fraser doesn't necessarily dislike the Mail.app look and feel, nor is he taking a jab at developers, but since he's running Mail.app, NetNewsWire and Yojimbo, he's making a few errors in Exposé simply because these three app windows (not to mention others like Ecto) look very similar.

Fraser poses a valid point, and it's a good question I thought worthy of mentioning for you TUAW readers. What do you think? Are too many apps using the same (handy) UI and cluttering up your desktop and Exposé views? Sound off.

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Fraser Speirs, developer of apps like FlickrExport and Xjournal, posed an interesting issue on his blog the other day: is the general look...
 

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Virginia

Yojimbo tipped ME over the edge in this regard as well: I'm just plain sick of the three-pane Mail-style app window. Of course, unification of the OSX design is important, but unification doesn't necessarily need to extend to applying the same structure to all windows - take Newsfire, for example. It uses Apple's UI standards appropriately, but isn't a Mail-style window. The Expos頰roblem is the most obvious (and most easily-surmountable) thing that results from having too many windows that look the same, but I'm beginning to think my fatigue with the style is largely due to the fact that the three-pane window doesn't use screen real estate well on a widescreen monitor. Some screenshots mocked up recently of Mail.app using three vertical columns have been kinda refreshing, and I hope Apple goes down this path soon (or perhaps that some edgier developers beat them to the punch).

February 07 2006 at 5:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
John Muir

Whoah - I'm just checking out UNO right now and it's made Safari look as sweet as Camino! Finder is a lot better too. The change to Tiger's often pick'n'mix style of interface is quite refreshing.

Thanks for the head's up! :D

February 06 2006 at 9:16 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Xenedar

#14: Agreed. The Mail.app "unified" look is going to become more and more pervasive. Everyone complained that all the "brushed metal" apps looked the same, then, as you say, they complained when the Unified look came out that there were too many different appearances, now they're complaining that all the Unified windows look the same.

It's obviously true that you can never please all the people all the time, but it seems like you can rarely please some of the people any of the time.

February 06 2006 at 7:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
wheels

You know, not long ago, everybody was debating about the different GUIs in the Apple world, and how people wanted a similar looking GUI across the board so OSX looked consistent and professional. Now we have this. Would somebody please make up their minds?

February 06 2006 at 4:29 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
brian

frank--we say 'Mail.app' because Apple used the generic word 'Mail' for their email program. The '.app' is added for clarity--that we're talking about a program--in particular, *that* program--and not a mail message or another email program. Same with Terminal.app. Read the board, though, and you'll never see a reference to 'Safari.app' or 'TextEdit.app' or anything else. If Apple had chosen a clever, non-generic name for their email program, like they did for their web browser, calendar, chat application, music player, etc.,* we wouldn't be having this discussion.

* Address Book aside, but no one ever talks about that. :-)

February 06 2006 at 3:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Frank

Please. There is no application called "Mail.app". If you're going to call Mail "Mail.app" then you might as well call them NetNewsWire.app, Yojimbo.app, and Ecto.app.

February 06 2006 at 2:54 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
sid

You know how when you pass your mouse over an app in expose it shows you the name of the app or the file name? well if it did that the entire time it was in expose that would solve everyone's problem.

February 06 2006 at 2:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
superjeff

Qow dude (#1). I was going to suggest the same thing. Sort of a watermark on the window. I haven't experienced this problem yet, but I'm sure this would help the situation.

February 06 2006 at 2:33 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Julian

Sheesh! You'd prefer every app has a completely different UI?

Get a grip. Use command-tab or nove the mouse over expose'd windows if you're that confused.

Personally, I find similar UI's to be a very GOOD thing, and I'd like to see more of it -- it reduces the time spent trying to figure out the unfamiliar when using a new program, and increases productivity.

February 06 2006 at 2:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tony Scida

I don't find it a problem because the windows have labels when you hover over them. I also don't use Expose extensively. I'm more of a command-tab person, coming from a windows world.

February 06 2006 at 1:53 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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