OSX86 Forums Closed by DMCA Violation Notice
For those
people attempting to get Mac OS X 10.4.x for Intel installed on machines other than Macs, the best place to get that
information was the forums at the OSX86 Project. The forums are now closed indefinitely because the project was served
with a DMCA violation notice and the project manager(s) are working on culling the questionable content.The front page of the forums has been replaced with this notice:
Welcome! We're sorry to report that despite our best efforts, the OSx86 Project has been served with a DMCA violation notice. The forum will be unavailable while we evaluate its contents to remove any violations present. We thank you for your patience in this matter.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Ronald Leroux said 7:20AM on 2-17-2006
Hi,
What's a DMCA violation notice?
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Xenedar said 7:42AM on 2-17-2006
>What's a DMCA violation notice?
Department of Motor Cycles Association.
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Bj?Leander said 8:02AM on 2-17-2006
Just another reason why USA is not the land of freedom (anymore).
DMCA: Don't Make Content Accessible.
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Al said 8:30AM on 2-17-2006
it was also the best place to learn about all this new fangled unibin stuff. Apple are shooting themselves in the foot
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aaa said 9:12AM on 2-17-2006
It was also a good place for people to look ways of getting widows on intel apples.
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zetasmack said 9:49AM on 2-17-2006
since no one actually answered, dmca stands for digital millenium copywright act. read all about this and more exciting titles at www.eff.org
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Benson Leung said 9:51AM on 2-17-2006
Good Riddance. Anyone who is deluded enough to think that they can FORCE Apple to change the way they do business (and to subsequently kill the mac platform by releasing it to generic PCs) by BREAKING THE LAW is extremely deluded.
People like OSx86 think they're sticking it to the man by hacking and pirating, but they are only contributing to the escalating arms race. Pirates and hackers are only doing more harm than good.
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Shig the Unmentionable said 10:17AM on 2-17-2006
Bad Apple! Stop acting evil immediately.
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David Chartier said 10:26AM on 2-17-2006
Awesome! OS X isn't meant to run on other hardware, no matter how many passionate manifestos are drafted to the contrary.
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Reid Ellis said 11:01AM on 2-17-2006
People like OSx86 are not pirating. They are enabling people to run software they purchase on hardware they purchase. [Yes, Mac OS X retail isn't out yet, but it will be.]
Only behind the US Iron Curtain would it be illegal to buy things and use them in ways not allowed by the companies that produce them. Note that this is different from using things in ways not allowed by the government, like dropping a safe on someone's head.
OSx86 was all about hacking, in the true sense of the word. The same way Woz hacked at phone systems back in the day. I understand they are trying to protect their business model, and they should be able to do that. I am just saying that this DMCA law is not a fair means to do so.
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NetworkShadpw said 11:25AM on 2-17-2006
Thank goodness! Apple can't have that, there'd be no reason to buy Apple hardware (other than the quality) if OS X ran on any Intel PC. Apple is a hardware company, they make most of their money off of hardware... They have every right to shut these guys down.
Stupid hackers...
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Phil said 12:49PM on 2-17-2006
You know what? You people are what's wrong with the mac community.
This isn't a question of "OH THEY ARE HACKING ILLEGALS", this is about being able to use software that you've purchased in any way you like. I have legal copies of 10.4, 10.3, and 10.2. I should be able to use them however I want.
I suppose you're also all very happy about the DMCA being used against third party garage door remote companies, print cartridge makers, and that poor guy who just made furniture out of old FedEx boxes.
Hell, who cares about bad laws if they don't affect you, right?
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Chad said 1:05PM on 2-17-2006
Who told you the software you buy could be used in any way you wish? When you buy that software, you agree to the eula, as well as any law we have in this country regarding that software. You agreed to it when that software was installed, so this argument of 'I want to use it how I wish' doesn't work.
Have you ever purchased a car? Are you able to do anything you want with that car? Of course not! We have laws that stipulate how the car is to be driven, registered, licensed, insured. Software, movies, and music are no different.
Hell, who cares about good laws even if they do affect you, right?
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nezromatron said 1:07PM on 2-17-2006
DMCA is also the thing keeping legally purchased DVDs locked away in some silly little discs instead of residing in some awesome media server. It is the reason why iTunes can't rip a DVD to be played with iPod with Video.
I don't understand how being able to run OSX on non-Apple hardware would really hurt all you anti-hackers? But some of us with old PCs lying around would like to put them to good use instead of clogging landfills with them.
No matter, all this does is put the effort further underground.
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Reid Ellis said 1:34PM on 2-17-2006
EULA's are shaky at best, and completely unenforcable at worst.
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Nick said 1:56PM on 2-17-2006
to #14:
Hacking OS X to work on generic hardware doesn't hurt any of us personally. But you're a complete idiot if you think anybody went out and bought a copy of 10.4 just so they could get it to boot on their PC.
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Velvet Nightmare said 2:07PM on 2-17-2006
DMCA = Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Google it.
"7. Good Riddance. Anyone who is deluded enough to think that they can FORCE Apple to change the way they do business (and to subsequently kill the mac platform by releasing it to generic PCs) by BREAKING THE LAW is extremely deluded."
You sir, are a damned idiot. We never, even remotely claimed that we were trying to get Apple to change it's ways. Do you honestly think our stragey was "Well, let's get a few buddies together and attempt to hack the OS. When that's done, Apple will HAVE to make it available to the standard PC Market!"
Quite the difference. If anything, Apple letting this happen for so long was wonderful. They're getting quite a lot of business from people who would never consider getting a Mac in the past. While I own two homebuilt PC's myself, I don't ignore my iBook nor my iMac, and will be having my Intel MacBook delievered in the next few weeks. If I hadn't spent so much time with the Project, there is no way that I would have wanted to purchase a MacBook, however, after doing some studying of the sheer power of OSx86 on a beige box, I was completely sold on the idea. I know of many people as well who simply got the OS to run, but found it too problematic to fix. Though, seeing what it was capable, a good many of them went out and purchased either Mac Mini's or iBooks. From what I read, and from who I talked to, they absolutely loved the first-party Mac experiance.
So don't bash everyone involoved with the project. If anything, be quite happy. Another reason to celebrate the work of the Project is the Security issues that Maxxus found. Imagine if a hacker had found out the same information and decided to use it malicously against one of your computers? Maxxus did a great favor for Apple in showing them just how to beef up their defenses.
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fra said 2:21PM on 2-17-2006
Who really cares... cheap bastards who wont go out and spend their money on hardware and software that runs stright out of the box with OSX86.
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OfficerDigby said 3:46PM on 2-17-2006
It's a real shame - Luckily Maxxus's site is still alive. .. waiting for the SSE2 update on 10.4.4. - I probably needed the forum to troubleshoot it though. BTW I would have put it on the only PC in the home network - to ensure OSX domination.
It was never gonna be perfect on a generic PC - however, what it did was give people 'stuck' (yes stuck - not everyone has money to plonk down for a new Mac at all times in their lives) with PC boxes a chance to get the feel for (and like) OS X. The effort involved was never gonna be worth it for professionals (no support, download 6GB OS for every update - nothing guarenteed working = no competition for Apple). Very few would by a PC box for a OS with no guarantee they would be able to install it. It would've be used on converting previously aquired Windows Boxes.
I guess (hope) Apple is not going to get to nasty on those guys (like the famous Tiger sharers) and the project will appear elsewhere.... The messages Apple left for the hackers seemed like encouragement to me.
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Mac Diva said 8:14PM on 2-17-2006
Plenty of cretins babbling nonsense on this one, but let's go with Phil:
"This isn't a question of "OH THEY ARE HACKING ILLEGALS", this is about being able to use software that you've purchased in any way you like. I have legal copies of 10.4, 10.3, and 10.2. I should be able to use them however I want."
Tain't so. You bought Apple software to use on an Apple computer. You are completely free to buy Microsoft software to use on a Windows computer. (And, of course, Windows apps that run on Macs, or vice versa. Linux? Go for it.) But, you are claiming that simply by buying one $100 application, you are purchasing the right to use it on other computers. That's not even true regarding any other Macs you might own.
We had a discussion of self-centered people with entitlement complexes during the great Mac Book Pro Whinefest. This discussion has brought out more of that ilk.
I took time to pop into the blogs of some of our the hack-a-Mac supporters. Interestingly, some of the people telling us what American laws should or shouldn't allow are. . .Brits. Guess they think we're still their subjects or something.
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