Hah. I love my powerbook but I have to say that is SOOOOOO slow. From that video it would be unbearable to play HL2 on the macbook.

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Ouch. Nevermind HL2, I think somebody may have found out about the "fan issue" the hard way. Poor someone.

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looks a little laggy - but the hl2 engine is really versatile... im sure under the right settings it would run fine.

i just cant wait to play css on my mbp in an emulator!

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there are some new intructions on how to install on a 20 incher at the wiki. it involves some easy F4's and some F7's, so check it out.

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Stop spreading the no fan myth! Fans work in XP

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The posts about Macs running hotter under Windows are incorrect.

Notice this comment on the official Wiki:

"Fans have been verified to be working, but are generally only audible under heavy CPU load or when the CPU temperature gets very high. There have been some perceptions that XP is running hotter than Mac OS X, but measurements indicate that maximum case temperatures under XP are no greater than under Mac OS X. CPU frequency throttling is confirmed working on a MBP under XP...."

http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Compatibility/Drivers

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I hit submit before I was finished..here check this link out...http://www.bluesparc.com/2006/03/20/xp-melting-your-mac-is-a-load-of-bull/

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This is what happens when you run under software rendering.

Remember that there arent video drivers that work yet for the MBP. If you look at that video with the mac mini which does have drivers, you'll see how awesome it is.

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@ Ryan Green:

I works so well on the intel Mac Mini because it doesn't have dedicated graphics hardware; it uses Intel integrated graphics, which is really pretty generic and doesn't require the specialized drivers that an ATI of Nvidia graphics system would need.

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I wonder what the specs on his MacBook Pro were; the game runs like crap.

However, this is probably attributed to the lack of working video drivers for the MacBook's internal X1600 under Windows XP. Nevertheless, the fast load times this gamer experienced suggests lots of RAM, and a game running that crappy even with alot of RAM is a bad sign.

#8: Is there a video of a Mac mini running XP games?

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fix that hanging problem: http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/FAQ#Will_this_work_on_a_20-inch_iMac.3F

do the F4 F7 thing and you're away laughing. do this every time until you've installed windows - never just press enter on the windows logo boot screen.

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Is it possible that the framerate of the Youtube video is exaggerating the slow FPS? That was my first guess while watching.

Although the lack of video drivers would be a problem. I'd love to see the mac mini version. Link?

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Just wait until the driver support is there. I bet the game runs 30-40 fps then. It's a 128 mb card, right? My theory is 30-40 fps for 128 mb, and I'd guess 50+ if it was a 256 mb card...

It's a tough call because laptops aren't usually gaming machines, yet the Mac Book's specs are none too shabby.

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There are a few mirrors up for the Mac Mini videos. Here's the one that I used, which gave me pretty good speeds, but which may not last forever:

http://www.bandwidthorbust.com/files/hl2mm2.mov

Here is the original source:

http://www.crackin.com/hl2mm/hl2mm2.mov

And here's the link to the digg post:

http://www.digg.com/apple/Half_Life_2_on_Mac_Mini_

The quicktime links can be changed to ..."/hl2mm.mov" for another version of the video (which I never watched).

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Yes, this all seems good, and yes it is possible that for some people the possibility of double booting will have them go out and buy themselves a Mac, but have u guys considered what apple has always been saying, "we are a hardware company". Maybe with people interested in garbage microsoft products, they will only be a hardware company. Hopefully this doesn't come true, but I would prepare for the worst.

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I'm surprised Half-Life 2 runs at all. I didn't know it supported software rendering.

Will be very nice to see X1600 drivers.

There's a poll over at http://forum.onmac.net/showthread.php?t=300 to determine whether a cash incentive should be offered.

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Mac fans do work under XP.

From the Wiki:

Update: On a MacBook Pro (1.83 GHz), testing with an infrared thermometer has verified that case temperatures running Windows XP under moderate use (browsing, general application use) do not exceed (and are generally lower than) the upper ranges of what the same system runnig Mac OS X already hits under heavy load (playing 1080HD Quicktime video trailers). For heavy load testing on XP, running two Prime 95 instances with CPU affinity set to fully load both cores (torture test, max heat generation), fans come on and increase speed, resulting in upper temperatures that still do not exceed Mac OS X highs. Will be retesting OSX with CPU-only loading for more even comparison, but the take-home so far is that XP is not causing problematic overheating on a 1.83 MacBook Pro.

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#8: Is there a video of a Mac mini running XP games?

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yup.. HL2 actually.. on Youtube..

you know.. Mac mini is not for gaming.. just get an iMac and put Win XP on it dual boot....

obviously.. the reason you would get a Mac at all is for all the other stuff besides gaming that you want.. iLife, virus-free, crash-free, an OS light years ahead of windows..

if you don't care about that stuff.. you wouldn't have read this story

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better video quality would be nice...

but yeah dual booting does look good, and it clearly demonstrates how the whole boot up process works clearly- I was unsure of how it would look/work...

Are there any drivers that you can get to make sure the fans work in XP?

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Remember guys, for now, you CANNOT play HL2 or any high power game on a MBP. The video driver support just isn't there yet.

However, if you do find yourself bored, you may find it a good idea to load your games now, s that when the drivers are out, you can just boot up and play.

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