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Run Vista on your Intel Mac with Q


Parallels Desktop is all the rage in Mac virtualization these days, but it doesn't offer one major feature (yet): the ability to run Vista on an Intel Mac (believe it or not, this will be useful to many a Mac user). Sure, they've promised it's coming on their blog, but who wants to wait for Parallels when the open source virtualization project Q can already do it?

That's right: if you have a copy of the public beta 2 of Vista (which unfortunately closed not long ago), you can check out their documentation (which boldly welcomes Parallels switchers) with simple instructions for installing Vista as a virtual machine. However: I don't know yet what is and is not supported under Q. Parallels has had issues up until this latest beta with supporting a lot of USB devices, amongst other things. Vista requires some heavy video card support, so I don't know how well it will run depending on how much support Q (and the QEMU project it's based on) has baked in.

While I snagged a copy of Q already and installed Ubuntu in it, I'm still turning over every half-empty box in this new townhouse trying to find my Vista images. If you readers beat me to the punch, by all means, share your experience in the comments.

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Zach Forrester

How did you install Ubuntu on Q?
Are there instructions? I can't find them on the website.
Please help.

August 22 2006 at 6:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Randy Harris

I looked into Q a while back, if I recall it isn't a virtualization product like Parallels and as a result is much slower, can anybody actually running Q with XP or better yet Vista confirm it's speed is less than ideal?

www.MacSeven.com
Randy

August 21 2006 at 1:22 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kyle

Yep, that Apple Mouse Utility works great--thanks for the link!

August 20 2006 at 11:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kyle

ah nice. that may well be it. :) I'll check out that apple mouse utility as well. and yeah, i was using bootcamp 1.1, and Vista Beta Bild 5472--so a little newer.

August 20 2006 at 9:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Daniel

Oh, and for those looking for right click capability:

Try using Apple Mouse Utility. Put it in your startup folder in XP/Vista and that should take care of your troubles.

http://www.geocities.com/pronto4u/applemouse.html

August 20 2006 at 8:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Daniel

Kyle:

I did it on the MacBook, and you appear to have a MacBook Pro. Also, I installed Vista when Beta 2 first came out, so I was using the older version of Boot Camp. Perhaps this latest update fixed some things for Vista as well as XP?

I'm ordering 2 GB of RAM from Newegg right now to replace the stock 512 MB, so when that arrives I'll try it again. I'm sure it's much nicer when you have an adequate amount of RAM, heh.

August 20 2006 at 8:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kyle

I've been running Vista on my MBP with BootCamp... right-click doesn't work at all unless I use a mouse, but its running failry smooth!

@daniel--audio worked fine out of the box (so to speak) for me, and I deleted my entire Vista partition and reinstalled it with no issues at all.. didn't have to wipe everything. Are you doing something different than I? I also deleted the EFI partition... didn't affect anything.

http://www.poeticfolly.com/drop/vista_book.jpg

August 20 2006 at 4:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
mathmonkey

Ah, I got it. Thanks for responding David. I just had to turn off that new "tablet" option for mouse grabbing. After that, it worked great. No sound, though, and slow as Christmas. I'll give Vista a go when my Beta CD arrives.

August 20 2006 at 4:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
David Chartier

#21: I didn't mean it would be useful to *you* specifically, I was simply trying to thwart the legions of "BUT WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT SOMETHING AS STUPID AS WINDOWS ON THEIR MAC!!!" dimwits that never fail in posting crap like that.

Running Windows on a Mac, either in virtualization or in Boot Camp, is helpful to the large number of Mac users out there who want to own one machine but *must* live in both (or all three) worlds for one reason or another. Web designers, physicists, lawyers, software testers - countless professions and practices that *need* software that simply isn't made for a Mac.

Now, with tools like Parallels and Q, those people don't need to worry about having to own and/or lug around more than one machine. They can test their websites and run their software all in one place. That's a revolution in and of itself for *those* people, not necessarily you. If you don't have a use for it, then great. Consider yourself lucky. For other people - this stuff is a godsend.

August 20 2006 at 12:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
David Chartier

#22: In all honesty, I installed Ubuntu in Q just to make sure it worked for this post, but I didn't even start it up to run it. I finished the install (which took a surprisingly long time) and simply shut the machine down. As I remember, the mouse was working fine; I'm using a 15" MacBook Pro.

August 20 2006 at 12:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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