More Mac/XP woes
Recently, I detailed the trying ordeal I endured while installing Windows XP on a MacBook via Boot Camp. While many of you shared your success stories, I've found at least one other IntelMac owner who had a less-than-pleasant experience. Julio at the Your Tech Weblog had a dog of a time getting XP to behave nicely on his Mac Pro. When Parallels resulted in "...numerous" kernel panics, he went to Boot Camp route, only to find that the Mac driver CD he was prompted to burn during the installation process wouldn't install (unsupported hardware).Isn't it nice to see all this frustration and wasted time become a part of the Mac experience?
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Recently, I detailed the trying ordeal I endured while installing Windows XP on a MacBook via Boot Camp. While many of you shared your...
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Mac Pro PROBLEMS installing Windows!!! with bootcamp 1.1.2
Having absolutely no luck installing Wondows XP SP2 on a basic Mac Pro configuration - apple keyboard, apple GFroce 7300 video card, 2 button USB mouse. Running lastest OSX updates 10.4.8 with latest EFI and SMC firmware updates. Using bootcamp 1.1.2, I can partition disk and burn the Mac drivers but when I click the install button and the system restarts to do the windows install the screen stays blank and I ocassionally get a small no video message on the LCD screen (a 21" Viewsonic VX2025 connected via a DVI cable to the video card output on the back of my Mac Pro).
Doing a manually restart (holding the option key down and selecting the Window CD drive to boot from) and then tapping the keyboard a few times will sometime bring the screen back and allow the first stage of the install to start.
I can then format the C drive (I use FAT not NTFS format) and the install then proceed to copy all the Windows necessary file to the new drive.
However, after all the files have been copied when it attemps to reboot, I am back to the blank screen and no video and tapping the screen soesn't seem to do anything.
It is really upsetting as I tested bootcamp on a loan MacBook Pro 17" (just before the Mac Pro's were released) and it installed and ran OK and on that basis decided to give the Mac environment a go while still being able to run my Windows specific programs.
I have tried parallels and was involved in their testing to get the product running on the Mac Pro but their lack of proper working USB functionality, is what prevent me from using what is otherwise a really great product.
Chris
"(unsupported hardware)"
Maybe theres a firmware update due out shortly.
why would i want to put garbage in my mac by installing windows, yes there is a trash can in mac os reserve for that..
September 11 2006 at 7:21 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply"Being part of the Mac experience" does not, by definition, encompass installing Windows software on your Mac. Welcome to the typical PC experience, I say.
September 11 2006 at 7:21 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replythis article is as biased as joystiq's "BIG NEXT GEN CONSOLE NEWS" was a hype generating waste of time. but if you want to go down that route thats your choice, i always knew mac fanboys were biased but this is ridiculous. nobody is asking you to install windows,, they are probably asking you to use your brain when you do, instead of getting mad and writing articles like this that make the whole xp on mac experience look bad when it the arctcle says 2 people have had problems, 2 people isnt a problem, if it was, things like the my website would get more attention. i come to this site to read apple news, not to hear inexperienced pc users bitch about not knowing what they're doing.
September 11 2006 at 6:58 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm a System administrator of 450 PCs and 60 Macs. I've seen Windows XP blue screen a few times in 5 years. Over the last 3 months of working with brand new MacBooks I've seen Mac lock up a couple of times, too. It's my experience that both lock up less when installed on tested machines (we run XP mostly on IBM boxes). Also, just to shake out my rug of complaints, while it may be true that XP has taken a few notes from OS X's GUI it appears to me that OS X has taken a few of XP's administrative notes. First thing I noticed was Preferences (OS X Server). They seem a lot like Windows Group Policies to me. Except Windows has 1300 and Mac has like 80. Or we could talk about Software Update Server. Sounds a lot like Windows Update Services. Then we have Access Control Lists. Microsoft's been doing this for 10 years when Apple's been playing with Posix. And what are you going to say when Mac comes out with thumbnails in the finder window in Leopard when XPs had them for 5 years? "Well, it makes sense." Of course it does. So does updating the look of your OS. And what about Gadgets? Widgets? Can you say Konfabulator 7 years ago? Mac puts 'em in their operating system and no one says they copied them from Konfabulator. Some Mac lovers make it sound like Jobs invented these himself after some mystical journey to Tibet. NO, these were stolen (and not very stealthily I might add) from Konfabulator. They didn't even have the descency to change the name!!
Anyway... I don't hate my Mac, but I love my Windows boxes. I've had no trouble installing XP on my MacBook Pro, but love running Vista on it even better.
When i installed boot camp on my intel mini, i had no problems at all... other than the normal windows problems on all of the windows pcs... i feel sorry for all of our macs having to be demoralized by running windows...
September 10 2006 at 9:49 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt's not the "Mac Experience". It's the Windows Experience. Get used to it if you want to run Windows on your Mac...
September 10 2006 at 9:07 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBeing a Windows user since its birth and having installed a few dozens of PCs until now, I'll have to say that Windows is a hell for the user that goes beyond mail and office apps.
Forgetting the fact that surfing the web with Microsoft's own browser can be disastrous, installing hardware can be deadly as well. Windows support for hardware is actually "support".
Have you ever thought that it may make a difference to install your scanner *before* that TV tuner card and not after?
Ever been with a PC that refuses to shut down because a USB mouse or USB hub is plugged in?
Did you know that it's impossible do move/rename/delete a folder when you're viewing it in thumbnail view for the first time?
To be fair about Windows, I'm not sure if OSX would behave better if it had to support millions of hardware combinations. But the problems that arise with Windows are unpredictable, and can be solved only by trying possible and impossible solutions.
For one thing, Windows improved my imagination!
I've had a very pleasant experience with Parallels and WinXP. No issues. Very easy to use a few windows apps that I must, on the mac.
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