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Switching from NetNewsWire to Google Reader


I'm not typically one for the web 2.0 movement. I'm a huge fan of the power and flexibility of Mac OS X, and I usually find most web services no match for their desktop counterparts with maybe a few syncing services thrown in to even the odds (.Mac, Google Browser Sync, etc.). This all changed, however, when Google dropped a quintessential upgrade bomb on Google Reader, their web-based RSS reader a la BlogLines and NewsGator. If you're curious as to what the new gReader is all about, I wrote up a walkthrough for Download Squad, but in a nutshell: it's awesome. So awesome, in fact, that after spending a serious week with it for all my personal and blogging needs, I feel confident in cutting my ties (yes, again) to NetNewsWire. Just like Gina over at Lifehacker, the plethora of new and well-polished features in this updated to Google Reader are an absolute dream in the category of web-based readers, and a number of factors clicked to make this my go-to reader of choice.

Power
The most appealing, of course, is the sheer power of the new Google Reader; it truly feels like an application. It's fast, responsive, and behaves like a desktop app. It features a typical expanded view, where all articles are listed in their full form on the right, but I prefer the List View which I have pictured here, with its unique way of expanding only the article you select in-line with the rest of the headlines. Another wonderful new addition to gReader's tool belt are lots and lots of new keyboard shortcuts; it is now possible to navigate everything in Google Reader - the feed list on the left (even expanding folders), headlines, articles, everything - from the keyboard. I'm not saying NetNewsWire can't do this - I'm simply impressed at how well gReader, a web app, pulls it off.

Organization
I have over 300 feeds covering topics for personal, freelancing and blogging purposes (yes, you guys), and Google Reader offers some great ways of bookmarking, sharing and tagging both feeds and individual headlines. The first and easiest method of saving important headlines is, of course, the typical Google UI of the 'star' - marking a star next to a headline, just like starring messages in Gmail, is just like flagging headlines in any other reader. Google Reader goes farther, however. Much farther. Headlines can also be individually tagged, and those tags can have their own RSS feeds, allowing me to easily tag and organize articles for TUAW and for my personal blog. At the tail end of organization, gReader also features a 'Share' button (and keyboard shortcut) for headlines, which creates an actual public webpage with a list of shared (and styled) headlines, that can also be inserted easily into something like a blog sidebar. You can think of it as a quickie-linked list. While certainly not all RSS users need all these fine-toothed filing and sharing features, they're a blessing for my various lines of work, and it's great to have all this under the umbrella of a powerful web app.

Portability
I get around. I bus it to downtown Denver for classes, and I'm constantly running around town doing a lot of errands my wife can't because she works 20 hours a day as a high school English teacher. Being able to fill those few minutes of waiting at the grocery store or the dentist's office by accessing my Google Reader feeds online with my mobile phone is a very handy thing. This feature didn't seem to receive any major upgrades with the new gReader (c'mon, it's mobile web - how great can it be?), but not having to sync my feeds or OPML files between a few newsreaders is a very nice burden to have off my back.

No hard feelings
I'm not writing this post to bash NetNewsWire; while I have a few gripes with it, that app has served me well for years, and I'll still keep it around for emergency purposes, for sure. I also think Ranchero NewsGator still has one of the best darn readers on the market, even the free Lite version. On the flip side, Google Reader still isn't without its shortcomings; while it can handle tons of feeds and massive numbers of headlines with skill and grace, it still doesn't feature a search option (I know: a Google product lacking a search - what the?), and it can't handle authenticated feeds, which means I just have to give Mr. Gruber and The Deck a few more page hits a week (hey, it's a Labs product - not even beta. Give 'em some credit). Fortunately, those missing features weren't mortal for my needs, so I wanted to help get the word out on a great RSS reading product that might work as well for others as it does for me. If you haven't looked at Google Reader in a while, it's had a heckuva facelift and feature upgrade. Check out Google's announcement post of the update, or dive in and get your RSS on.

I'm not typically one for the web 2.0 movement. I'm a huge fan of the power and flexibility of Mac OS X, and I usually find most web...
 

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David Chartier

#22: Diego, Google *just* updated Reader, after I wrote this, with a few more UI enhancements. One of them includes a dedicated button/link at the top of the headline list to 'Mark all as Read', though I still prefer the keyboard shortcut shift-a to do the same.

Hope this helps!

October 13 2006 at 12:49 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dave M.

#34, NetNewsWire faster? I must be doing something wrong then. I have over 100 feeds and NNW took about 5 minutes to download all the feeds. On top of that, my internet connection would all but freeze while it was doing this. If I went to a website while it was checking for new posts, I would get errors in my browser, or the page text would load, but the graphics would not.

I can live with the few beakers I see in gReader. When I compare the two, NNW and gReader, gReader beats NNW hands down.

October 10 2006 at 9:11 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dry County

I didn't want to say anything until I was sure of it, but yeah -- it is slow, not only on loading or refreshing pages but also in terms of updating feeds. As an example, I added TUAW and it took at least an hour for it to update. Wassup with that?

October 09 2006 at 7:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JD

I have no idea why you are so enthused over this.

It's BARELY better than Bloglines and it's still comparatively DOG SLOW. That green beaker is a constant.

NetNewsWire is much, much faster and there's no way I'd ditch it on my desktop.

October 09 2006 at 5:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
bluehz

I am a longtime user of Netnewswire on my Mac's at home. Unfortunately I use a PC at work. I have been VERY happy with Google Reader so far - my only complaint being the need for more keyboard shortcuts. I am such a fanatic in NNW with my shortcuts - it seems bassackwards to have to read rss feeds without them. My main gripe is the need to fir select a feed (ctrl+A), and then tell the feed to list/open (ctrl+O). Why must this be a 2 key affair. If I am selecting a feed - I probably want to see it also.

October 09 2006 at 9:01 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
David Chartier

#29: Hervé, might I suggest decaf?

All joking aside, I think you might be taking Google's wide-spread popularity a little too seriously. Alternative webmail options seem to be doing anything but dieing in the face of Gmail; Tim Gaden at Hawk Wings keeps raving about some backwater webmail he uses, and both Yahoo! and Microsoft have either rolled out major upgrades to their webmail services (such as Microsoft Live), or they're in beta (Yahoo!'s webmail beta is getting great marks for its unique desktop-like, AJAX-ish UI).

The fact of the matter is that the industry has gravitated very strongly towards standards for a lot of these types of services. All feed readers, all of them - gReader included - use standard OPML files to import/export your newsfeeds, and that won't change; you can count on it. Just like many webmail services offer POP downloading for all your email, in which case I think Google is being nicer about letting you be portable with your data than many of the competition. Yahoo! doesn't let you download your email unless you pay a yearly fee, and if I recall, neither does Hotmail. You can download your Gmail - sent messages included - any time you want through POP, and move along to any other email service you like.

I think the realm of data portability is in a much better condition than you might fear. I hope some of this helps, even if you don't settle on gReader. Cheers.

October 09 2006 at 8:21 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
AJ Cann

As an OS X user, I prefer Bloglines to GReader - much nicer interface, and fast.

October 09 2006 at 6:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
shredder

so much conversations about it... let me see... - gone for downloading...

October 09 2006 at 4:33 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Hervé “.

Matt: what I fear if I do what you propose, is... by the time I change my mind the alternative, local RSS readers will have died because of Google's monopoly, like the alternative webmails are dying now.

But even more than the possibility to change later (and I agree an open export format remains a must, that's the basis for my present choice for all applications), what strikes me is the silent migration of the intelligence from the macs and PCs to central servers like Google's.

Megalomaniac centralisation was feared since the very beginnings of computing; regularly some people complain about text processors/worksheets etc being at this risk and others underline this with existing apps can never happen: true, but it is happening under our eyes with all "web2" applications.

I'm not even saying this is good or bad, I say nobody sees it, nobody thinks about it. THIS worries me.

October 09 2006 at 3:03 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Andreas

if you're a mouser bloglines might be adequate. but with over a hundred feeds you need a way to go through them quickly, which is where google reader's shortcuts come in handy.

October 09 2006 at 2:47 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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