The real reason Greenpeace was ejected from MacExpo

The thing that everyone is forgetting is that the Greenpeace study has been shown to be questionable at best. They provide almost NO supporting data to support their wild claims, and in fact some of their claims have been shown to be downright wrong, or at best wildly inaccurate.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/10/rotten_to_the_c_1.php

To borrow from Jerry Maguire, "Show me the data."

Greenpeace reaction to MacExpo ejection:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=16317&pagtype=allchandate

As Mark from MacWorld points out they now have the Greenpeace side of the story on their site.

Might have helped if the original author had taken a little time to read the Greenpeace blog, written by me as I was actually at the Expo manning the Green my Apple stall and our experience was very different to the version of events given by Bob Denton.

Day one:
http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2006/10/we_love_our_macs_but_mac_expo.html
Day two:
http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2006/10/green_my_apple_returns_to_mac.html

In this original post this comment from the MacWorld story, "replacing other exhibitors' promotional material with their own." For example is completely untrue.

I had the pleasure of meeting the delightful Mr. Denton on the 3rd day when he came to berate me outside the venue on a public pavement, talking to an interested member of the public about the greenmyapple campaign. All he achieved was putting off a potential Expo visitor with his rude behaviour.

In future I can only suggest the author of this article, Laurie tries to get both side of a story before making incorrect statements like:

"Radical activists taking the peace out of Greenpeace."

About an activity that was conducted entirely peacefully. Picture of our activities are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/giona/sets/72157594345581371/

Tom

Just want to point out that Macworld UK now has a response from Greenpeace on our site:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=16317

You're equating peace with apathy at the end, low blow. One cannot blame Greenpeace for their will to stand up against computer manufacturers.

"Peace" is not easy. But then, what would you know about standing up.

Macobyte:
you must be one of those religious freaks who believe that humans are superior to all other life. Do you realize that each tree cut down in a rainforest kills massive amounts of life? It destroys habitat for so many poor creatures from the microscopic level up. So killing a human who tried to cut down a rainforest tree is quite justified actually

> HELLO PEOPLE.

Hello Joseph.

> THERE WERE COMPLAINS ABOUT THEM PHOTOGRAPHIC MINORS WITHOUT
> APPROVAL OF THE PARENTS. I hate to type that all caps, but look, that is
> beyond protesting, that's illegal.

No it's not.

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/media/UKPhotographersRights.pdf

This is also a common misconception in the U.S. Ask a local newspaper photographer how often she gets harassed for "taking a picture of my child without permission" or told "You can't take my picture without a release form."

You're out in a public place (trade show, though on private property, would qualify in the U.S., since there is no expectation of privacy), you could be photographed. Your image could even be used for commercial gain, published in a periodical or posted on the internet.

The right to privacy is a myth, fella. A pernicious one, too.

you wusses :-)

"Cancer rates are increasing in both wild animals and in humans"

You have to be careful with these statistics, as there is so much room for fudging info to prove a particular point. In humans, cancer stats must be carefully handled, because people are also living longer, and cancer is the ultimate killer-- if you live long enough and nothing else kills you, cancer eventually will. So it makes sense that as we improve treatment for other diseases and people live longer, cancer rates would also go up.

The thing about his expo that those who would defend Greenpeace tacticts must realize is that it is NOT a free speech event. Trade shows are controlled events-- those who exhibit and those who attend are held to specific ranges of behavior in order to create the best possible "environment" (no pun intended) for transaction of business - to make the vendors/exhibitors get good contact with as many potential customers as possible, and for attendees to enjoy a peaceful (pun intended), fun event, and, ultimately, for all involved to want to attend next time around.

Greenpeace activists know this, signed the documents acknowledging this, and then broke the rules to make their point. POINT TAKEN: Greenpeace is irresponsible, and they hurt the very cause the purportedly promote.

As a progressive Democrat, Greenpeace embarasses me in the same way that Evangelical "Christians" embarass me as a follower of Christ.

The problem with Greenpeace is the same as with PETA...a radical, dangerous organization masquerading as warm and fuzzy. They scare the hell out of me.