Filed under: OS, Rumors, Leopard
Macworld asks: Do Tiger updates go up to 11?
OS X just hit 10.4.9, the 9th major Tiger update, so what's next? Leopard, right? Philip Michaels of Macworld says hold your horses (or felines, or whatever animal properly applies here). Just because 10.4.9 + 0.0.1 = 10.5 doesn't mean that Apple won't ship 10.4.10 or 10.4.May2007 updates or even that Apple will ship Leopard in a timely manner-- though we all think it probably will. It's already March 2007 and Leopard has generally been thought to ship "in the Spring". So when will Leopard debut? Michaels stands firm by his June 2007 prediction.
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Steve Grenier said 4:29PM on 3-16-2007
I highly doubt Apple will release another system update under 10.4.10 Apple has never done that on any other version of OSX why would the start now? They will only release updates alone and not in a major pack like this, 10.5 is next in line as it has been in the past. However I doubt a June release, I suspect a May release.
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Michael Boutros said 4:55PM on 3-16-2007
You realise that 10.4.9 > 10.4.10?
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monsoondawn said 4:55PM on 3-16-2007
A Spring ship date just doesn't make any sense. What are people going to go WOW over at WWDC? The iPhone is locked against developers so is Apple TV and the Airport Extreme. Plus, a Spring release would completely screw over Adobe. The 10.5 kernel is substantially different than 10.4.x which means that vendors like Adobe that are concerned about performance will have to recompile their apps. Pro's aren't buying new macs because Adobe hasn't shipped CS3. It's so important that Apple cited the delay as a material event at their last analyst conference.
Can you really see a situation where Adobe finally announces a revamped and completely native suite only to have Apple slap them down a few weeks later? Nah. Watch Adobe's March 27th announcement. I bet Adobe and Apple will coordinate their releases.
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schlomo said 5:05PM on 3-16-2007
3:
in a mathematical sense, yes, it is. in a software versioning use, however, that statement is not true.
my bet is Leopard starts shipping during the Stevenote at WWDC, though. I just don't see Apple doing 10.4.10... plus WWDC is really during spring, even if it is early spring...
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Rod said 5:16PM on 3-16-2007
Um, remember that WWDC is June 11-15. That's still spring. Summer starts June 21.
A WWDC release WOULD BE a spring release.
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NutMac said 5:17PM on 3-16-2007
> You realise that 10.4.9 > 10.4.10?
Well, 10.4.9 and 10.4.10 are technically not numbers. You cannot do 10.4.9 - 10.4.10 and get some number. Version = MAJOR.MINOR.REVISION.BUILD... although for Mac OS X, it's 10.MAJOR.MINOR.
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superjeff said 5:18PM on 3-16-2007
Let's not get to mathematical when dealing with numbers that have two decimals.
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M-A. said 5:25PM on 3-16-2007
monsoondawn, when you say : "A Spring ship date just doesn't make any sense. What are people going to go WOW over at WWDC? ", well the WWDC is taking place from june 11 through june 15 so basically it's still spring.
I also think Leopard will be announced on the WWDC 2007.
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Jon said 5:26PM on 3-16-2007
Well, I'm sure we'll know shortly. They often get developers to test pre-release versions of updates, so if they are planning to slip in 10.4.10 before Leopard, we'll know about it in the next month or so I'd imagine, otherwise they wouldn't have much time.
However, I'm pretty sure there will be a 10.4.10 as Apple won't immediately discontinue support when Leopard is released, but the question of course remains: before or after Leopard?
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niclet said 5:28PM on 3-16-2007
It will rather be 10.4.9.1 !
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l0ne said 5:39PM on 3-16-2007
Please note that Mac APIs have trouble with update numbers with two digits after the dots. Apple avoids them as much as possible.
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MagerValp said 6:10PM on 3-16-2007
Actually, if you look in /usr/local/AvailabilityMacros.h, you'll notice that it's not possible for Apple to release 10.4.10, or any 10.x.10 release. Compiler macros depends on versions being four digits.
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Konstantinos Konstantinidis said 6:25PM on 3-16-2007
"Just because 10.4.9 + 0.0.1 = 10.5"
I'm sorry - this doesn't make sense. 10.4.9 + 0.0.1 = 10.4.10. This all has been beaten to death in the FreeBSD mailing lists when they released 4.10 - they then went on and released a 4.11 as well.
Just because all the other major releases had less than 10 minor releases doesn't mean anything. If apple thinks one more 10.4 release is needed, it will be called 10.4.10, because that's what it will be... the 10th point release of 10.4
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Jeremy T said 6:34PM on 3-16-2007
Why are people still so clueless about versioning systems? IT IS NOT A MATHMATICAL SYSTEM! All it is is an indicator to show which version of X software. Otherwise you will have multiple nmes such as Windows Vista greatest ultimate, Windows Vista Greatest uber ultimate, Windows Vista Greater Omega Ultimate, Windows Vista Super Greatest Absolute Uber Ultimate! ;)
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b352 said 7:30PM on 3-16-2007
this theory surfaced with 10.3.9
was there a 10.3.10? no...
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damien said 7:33PM on 3-16-2007
I predict that Leopard will be released at the same time as Adobe CS3.
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Alex P. said 8:04PM on 3-16-2007
Even if they did release a "10.4.10", wouldn't the next logical step be 10.4.91?
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anon said 8:24PM on 3-16-2007
I love how the uncommonly long 6-7 month timeframe between the 10.4.8 and 10.4.9 updates were not mentioned in the article.
It's quite obvious that Apple plans to release no more updates to Tiger. Security updates not withstanding.
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anon said 8:27PM on 3-16-2007
CORRECTION: It was 5.5 months between 104.8 and 10.4.9
Version history:
* Mac OS X v10.4.0 (build 8A428), released April 29, 2005 (retail)
* Mac OS X v10.4.1 (build 8B15), released May 16, 2005 (Apple Download Page)
* Mac OS X v10.4.2 (build 8C46), released July 12, 2005 (Apple Download Page)
o Mac OS X v10.4.2 (build 8E102), released October 12, 2005; exclusively for the Front Row iMac G5 released on same date
o Mac OS X v10.4.2 (build 8E45), released October 19, 2005; exclusively for PowerBook G4s released on same date
o Mac OS X v10.4.2 (build 8E90), released October 19, 2005; exclusively for Power Mac G5 Dual and Quad systems released on same date
* Mac OS X v10.4.3 (build 8F46), released October 31, 2005 (included in updated retail copies) (Apple Download Page)
* Mac OS X v10.4.4 (build 8G32 for PowerPC, 8G1165 for Intel), released January 10, 2006 (Apple Download Page)
* Mac OS X v10.4.5 (build 8H14 for PowerPC, 8G1454 for Intel), released February 14, 2006 (Apple Download Page)
* Mac OS X v10.4.6 (build 8I127 for PowerPC, 8I1119 for Intel), released April 3, 2006 (Apple Download Page (for PowerPC), (for Intel))
* Mac OS X v10.4.7 (build 8J135 for PowerPC, 8J2135a for Intel), released June 27, 2006 (Apple Download Page (for PowerPC), (for Intel))
o Mac OS X v10.4.7 (build 8K1079), released August 7, 2006; exclusively for Mac Pro released the same date
* Mac OS X v10.4.8 (build 8L127 for PowerPC, 8L2127 for Intel), released September 29, 2006 (Apple Download Page (for PowerPC), (for Intel))
* Mac OS X v10.4.9 (build 8P135 for PowerPC, 8P2137 for Intel), released March 13, 2007 (Apple Download Page (for PowerPC),(for Intel))
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Tom said 9:19PM on 3-16-2007
Retarded. Of course it can go up to 10.4.10 or 10.4.11, the period is simply a separator. If they had to stop at 10, why would we even have Mac OS 10.anything, it would have to be 1.0.anything...
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