Option C: transition everyone to Jabber. :)

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Pretty obvious what the result is going to be with Leopard on the horizon.

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Admium is nice.

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Dear Yahoo,
Just give up and move on to the next thing. Get ahead on Google on just ONE thing and maybe you can claim some territory. Instead of trying to play catch-up. But I really hope you lose.

-Joe

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Just make integration with iChat seamless(er?)... I hate installing anything Yahoo on my system. It seems to inevitably take over more than I want. Like some sort of parasite. And it's the same for Windows (used to use) and Mac (used for a year now). I tried to get a TV listing widget, but it wasn't a widget. It was a "Yahoo! Widget" ! Which means it installed seven other "Widgets," which did not AT ALL follow Apple's HIG. Nor did they run on the dashboard. No no, they plopped themselves right onto my desktop.

BTW, did you mean 10.5 not 10.3?

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kick the current user interface design, and replace him/her with someone who knows how to design real mac application.

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#5: They were talking about backwards compatibility so 10.3 was correct.

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Sorry Yahoo, but your app stinks for many reasons. #1 on my long complaint list is how messages bounce back to the top when you leave a window. Instead, I use Adium. The only thing Adium is missing from being the perfect IM client is lack of audio/video. However, I really don't use those features enough to care. I recommend that any other Yahoo for Mac users switch to Adium as well. Therefore, the question is moot.

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I just voted to keep the backward compatibility. And yes I am running 10.4 and will be running 10.5 when it comes out.

But not everyone can upgrade to the newest version of OS X.

There has been a long trend ever since OS X came out for developers to release software that is not backwards compatible. So as a result users are forced to upgrade to the new OS because the software they are using requires it.

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I, myself, would settle for a version that actually worked well across different platforms.
I can chat with my friends using PCs, but it *always* locks up when trying to use any of the other features. (i.e. file transfer,webcam, conference)

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10.3 (Panther) compatibility will be a dead issue once Leopard is released and Apple discontinues security fixes for Panther. You would be doing your users a disservice by continuing support for an insecure operating system (especially with applications like yours that require open internet ports).

Personally, the only people I know who are still using Panther are cheapskates. Since Leopard isn't sold as an "Upgrade", Tiger users will be able to sell their unneeded copies of Tiger for $10-$20 on craigslist or eBay which will be quite an appetizing price to the bargain hunters.

Elminating Tiger support is a different issue, but eliminating Panther support will be uncontroversial and a blessing in disguise once security fixes are discontinued.

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I can't bring myself to use their stuff. It always seems to install more than I want and as far as IM apps goes feels "clunky" on Mac or PC.

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You guys should try the current beta. It is a very nice mac os x application. try skype for webcam and audio.

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Yahoo Messenger is so out dated and any bug fixes i the new version are likely to take several years. I stopped supporting Yahoo Messenger when they let their old version for Mac OS X go years without improvement.

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who even uses Yahoo messenger???? :) AOL's IM protocol reigned in as king years ago and it's been that way ever since.

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Sam - if you use something else like Skype or iChat or whatever for audio/video, and also can type from it too.... what's the point of using Yahoo's messenger then?

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I agree with #1, mummey; everyone should be transitioned to XMPP/Jabber. In fact it should be Yahoo's long-term strategy to move their IM service over to this protocol. XMPP is the future of IM, so Yahoo is going to either have to do it eventually anyway or let their IM service become extinct.

In the short-term Yahoo should just openly document their IM protocol and dump development of their own Mac client in favour of implementing the features into Adium/libpurple.

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Yahoo is still even working on YM? Hmmm. I use Adium like most everyone else here. Frankly I'm tired of all the different protocol p*ssing contests. Everyone just choose one and make it wor really well everywhere!!!!

Oh well...

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I like Yahoo Messenger. The fact that I met my wife in a Yahoo chatroom probably has something to do with that. Anyway, without audio and video, Yahoo Messenger on the Mac is just yet another me-too inferior chat program.

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@ Michael Hodges - Not sure about AOL reigning supreme, certainly doesn't seem the case in the UK, MSN has that position. The people who use it tend not to want to switch to anything else. (I guess it could be academic if you use something like Adium).

Anyway, the newer version of Yahoo! Messenger is much improved over past offerings, it's nice they're doing more and having this poll. I went for not waiting. If you're still on 10.3, you can just continue to use the older version of the messenger, which seems fair.

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