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MacHeist 2 hype begins with email and forum leaks

Like Mac software? Like stunts designed to promote and sell it? Then guess what, buddy-- you're in luck. It seems MacHeist 2 is just around the corner. Last year's ARG / bargain / Mac software love fest is coming around again, it seems, and while details are slim at the moment, odds are there'll be more very soon.

The main site still says nothing, but over on the forums, things are starting to get interesting. First, head honcho Phill Ryu hints at something that might be a "Web 2.0" "Game thingy where you win stuff," and then shared a bunch of little pictoral hints about something called "groupthinkheist."

Then, a tipster, who we'll keep anonymous, sent us word that an email had been sent announcing MacHeist 2 and sending everyone to... um... something. I couldn't get it to do anything now (you probably had to type in a code), but previously there was action going on there. That action was accompanied by more forums board talk, but apparently that talk was silenced. And all we're really left with is hype for something we knew was coming anyway.

So are you all excited for MacHeist to come around again this year? I only watched from the sidelines last year, and it's really just a way to sell software (and not a very profitable way for devs, either). But it is a creative way, and I have to admit it sounds fun. What do you think?

Update: Phill himself tells us this "event" is completely unrelated to MacHeist (so it definitely hasn't started yet), but that MacHeist 2 is coming later this year.

Update2: If you're interested, lots more information about what's happening is showing up on this wiki.

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JD

Frankly, I don't see the draw in me spending my time and effort on some "scavenger hunt" for the favor of getting marketed to. I think this spin on viral marketing is kind of insulting.

July 07 2007 at 2:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mark S

Nice! I can't wait. I enjoyed the first MacHeist even though some of the missions were a bit too tough for the average person and the sixth was WAY too long in coming. All in all I got some great software that I enjoy. Some of it I would probably never have heard of or used otherwise. The MacHeist community is what made things fun and much less frustrating when you got stuck.

July 06 2007 at 4:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kenneth

Omigod! That's My Face On The Picture! Too bad you cut the bottom of it out!

July 06 2007 at 4:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dimebag

My experience has been that most of the macheist apps given away and in the bundle were end of life versions on the verge of being updated and most of those updates were not free… The developers did just fine, give 'em a little credit, it was a calculated risk and it paid off very well.

July 06 2007 at 1:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jay

@Jon H

" "Yet they want to make as much money as possible to fund their lives, families, and their work."

So they go through MacHeist, and lose money on every sale, but make it up in volume.
Riiiiight."


I think you misunderstood my statement. I am assuming that developers need to make money to be able to develop as a full or part time profession.

Whether MacHeist works for them or not is impossible for me to comment on as I am not a developer, nor do I know any who participated in MacHeist.

You seem certain that this does not work. Are you one of the MacHeist 1 developers? Please share your thoughts with us who know less about this subject.

"Why is TUAW such a whore for these people? Is TUAW paid for the advertising? If not, why? MacHeist makes plenty of money, why aren't they buying ads?"

It is my understanding that TUAW covers a multitude of topics related to Macs, and Apple. It's called reporting. Being a whore is, as far as I know, a different profession all together.

"Why don't they buy advertising?"

Are you suggesting that paid for content, without editorial review, is better than what TUAW does? And should, in that case, indie sw developers pay to be seen on the pages of TUAW?

Where is the limit - if someone makes $10 000 per year from sw should they in that case pay for coverage?
Or is that to high/to low? Share your reasoning with us.

Should that philosophy also extend to newspapers who could simply carry advertisements and not employ journalists?

TUAW does often point out flaws in products by both the biggies like Apple, MS etc, and small developers. As consumers, and professionals in the Mac community, we should appreciate this as it helps us making informed decissions, and thus saves us from spending our $ on louse products.

July 06 2007 at 1:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mike Schramm

No of course we're not paid for the advertising. Most people are interested in it in some fashion, at least as a bargain if not as an ARG. I agree that there's no need to go over the top in hype and coverage, but it is a big deal in the Mac software arena, and that's why we'll continue to let you know about it.

July 06 2007 at 1:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jon Hendry

"Yet they want to make as much money as possible to fund their lives, families, and their work."

So they go through MacHeist, and lose money on every sale, but make it up in volume.

Riiiiight.

Why is TUAW such a whore for these people? Is TUAW paid for the advertising? If not, why? MacHeist makes plenty of money, why aren't they buying ads?

July 06 2007 at 12:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Phillip Ryu

Hey, one of the Heist organizers here,

I just wanted to clarify that this event is actually very separate from MacHeist 2, which is scheduled for later this year.

Mike, if you'd like some invite codes to give out to TUAW readers, hit me up on AIM under phillryu, and I'd be happy to provide.

July 06 2007 at 12:41 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jay

@tripdragon

Thank you for your thoughts.

Macupdate.com and VT are both handy, but I see them more as directories, usefull when I look for somthing I already know exists. The ratings do help, but it's a bit overwhelming as I, like most people, don't have hours to spend looking for stuff.

How ever I do appreciate your suggestions.

Are you opposed to any non-developer driven software marketing? It strikes me that many developers want to be very indie, and not seen to "commercialize" their apps as they would get panned by the hardcore Mac community. Yet they want to make as much money as possible to fund their lives, families, and their work.

What would in your mind be a better way to reach the more mainstream part of the Mac community?

July 06 2007 at 12:13 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
artifex

Tripdragon may be confusing MacHeist with WasteAWeekend.

July 06 2007 at 12:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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