Filed under: iMac, Apple, Mac mini
Meet the New Macs, A Little Faster Than the Old Macs
Personally, I crave speed. No, not the kind that can often be purchased on some local street corner in that part of town on the wrong side of the tracks. No, I'm referring to processors, front side buses, RAM and other factors that go into calculating the raw, unbridled, number-crunching power of the latest and greatest Macs.No doubt you are aware that Apple recently released an updated version of its flagship prosumer desktop iMac as well as an updated Mac Mini too. The new iMacs feature changes both external and internal with increases to the clock speed of its Intel Core Duo 2 processors as well as a switch to the faster Santa Rosa chipset. Yes, that all sounds great but what does it mean in terms of the new iMac's ability to crunch those numbers?
Well, according to Primate Labs' tests on the new 24" iMac, as featured at Apple Insider, it doesn't help a great deal unless you're using one of those math-intensive apps like Photoshop or Aperture. In that case, according to the article: "If you're running memory-intensive applications you'll certainly notice an increase in performance with the new 24-inch iMac. Heck, the fact that the new 24-inch iMac supports 4GB of RAM while the old 24-inch iMac supports 3GB of RAM might be enough to convince you to get one." Good point. More RAM is a good thing.
So what about the new Mac Mini? Changes to the diminutive Mac include a switch to Core Duo 2 processors as well as an increase in clock speed, which should provide some sort of speed bump over previous models. The results, according to Primate Labs, followed that logic. "Moving from the Core Duo to the Core 2 Duo brings modest performance improvements without an increase in clock speed, and moving from 1.83GHz to 2.0GHz brings (unsurprisingly) another modest increase in performance."
What about those of us considering a move from a PowerPC based Mac Mini to one of the new Intel Core Duo 2 ones? They have an answer at the site for that question too. "Of course, if you're moving from a PowerPC (or Core Solo) Mac mini, you'll notice a huge improvement in performance, not only from the improved Core 2 architecture, but also from the addition of an extra processing core," said the tester.
So, if your considering a new iMac, are a frequent user of Photoshop, Aperture or other math-intensive apps and crave speed as I do, a new 24" iMac should perhaps be in your future. Or, if you're like me and still have an older PowerPC Mac Mini around "just in case," it's probably time to retire that Mac in favor of one of its newer siblings.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Microdot said 3:20PM on 8-13-2007
yes... but what about the 2.8ghz extreme? im really interested in seeing how that fares. im right down the middle at the moment... i need more power than the old imacs provided.. but not necessarily needing a full blow mac pro. that 2.8 extreme is right there at the sweet spot for me, and with the addition of another gb of ram, and a ati hd card... its the specs im looking for.
i just want to see some hard tests on it.
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Scott said 2:52PM on 8-13-2007
I've got a G4 iMac, so I'm sure I'd get a big speed boost. The day they announce the launch date for Leopard and free coupons for Leopard for new iMac users from that day forward, I'm buying a 24-inch iMac. Or, if they don't do that, I'll be waiting for October's Leopard release.
I'll bet new iMac sales will be fairly slow until one of those two things happens. They're preying on the least-informed until then.
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Pete said 3:00PM on 8-13-2007
Where is 802.11n for the Mac mini? That is the only thing holding me back from buying one to use as a media centre.
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chickensdontclap said 3:01PM on 8-13-2007
Does anyone know when the next new Intel architecture comes out? I want to wait until the next revision to incorporate newer chip technologies of the new iMac and wanted to have an idea of when it would be. I think the next architecture is Santa Rosa... but that could be what is in it now... Anyway, does anyone know the name of the next architecture and when it will be out?
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Jan Goh said 3:13PM on 8-13-2007
That 4GB isn't really 4GB yet though; the OS can't address that much contiguous memory at once yet. As I recall, this'll be fixed in October with 10.5.
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Aaron said 3:07PM on 8-13-2007
I disagree, I bought a new 24" on Tuesday and plan to wait out for Leopard. I think that sales will be the same either way. If you want it, you'll buy it, most don't care to spend another $179 for Leopard a few months from now.
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osalom said 3:14PM on 8-13-2007
I ordered mine. I don't care about Leopard, Tiger works really well... besides, I'll have to purchase leopard anyway (family pack) form my Macbook Pro & my wife's macbook.. Family pack has a license for 5 so I'll have 2 more remaining..
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Ron Hughes said 3:52AM on 8-15-2007
New iMac memory - Apple wants £450 [$900] to change 2 x 1GB to 2 x 2GB. More than three times the cost of an equivalent Windows upgrade cost.
If Mr Jobs wants to encourage defections from Gate's Gang, perhaps he can offer a valid explanation?
The correct English term is "profiteering"; and that only works on a captive audience.
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Jan Goh said 3:15PM on 8-13-2007
No, I lie. Tiger can already address 4gb of memory on a capable machine. Apparently, that doesn't include the Macbook pros, which a colleague of mine was having trouble with the other day.
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Andy said 3:22PM on 8-13-2007
the new iMacs were sold out all weekend here in MA, I checked EVERY store. Probably a result of the tax free weekend, however... but still
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Steve Grenier said 3:30PM on 8-13-2007
I can't believe how many sites have completely ignored the high end 24" iMac every friggin site acts as if it isn't there. Thats the one that will have the biggest improvement and why not compare the best imac from the last refresh with the best of the new one. Its been annoying me since it was first published, and now TUAW has joined the party. Common people open ur eyes.
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Object-X said 3:36PM on 8-13-2007
Sadly, I am returning my new 24" iMac. I can't believe it's come to this. But the glossy screen is too problematic for my office. I like glossy screens, I have one on my MacBook Pro, but this thing is like a mirror. The blinds behind me create horizontal white lines across the screen during the day that give me a headache.
At night the screen is fantastic. OS X never looked so good. If you have a controlled lighting situation then go for it, otherwise you may be seriously dissappointed.
I suspect they will get a large number of returns of these units for this reason. I don't expect this iMac revision to do well at all. My prediction is they will kill it within a year.
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SIemova said 3:42PM on 8-13-2007
@ chickensdontclap:
Yeah, the current version is Santa Rosa. Intel's next generation will be a family of 45nm, 6MB L2 "Penryn" chips - no doubt the next iMac will sport the mobile version, which (along with better graphics acceleration) is what I too am waiting for. Actually, I think the 2.8Ghz "Core 2 Extreme" option for the 24" might be one of those already, but I could be wrong. In any case, from what I've read it sounds like they're slated for major production by the end of the year.
I really wish they'd use desktop-class processors in the iMacs, even if they had to make the body a little thicker to compensate with better airflow. In addition to greater clock speeds, Penryn desktop chipsets will have up to 1333Mhz FSB's, which would obviously have a nice advantage over the 800Mhz mobiles, yet without too much extra heat (in comparison with today's chips) because of the 45nm size. I'm not holding my breath, but I guess we'll see what happens...
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Al said 3:43PM on 8-13-2007
Sorry, folks, but I have to be one of _those_ persons who complains about bad grammar, because I find it really distracting!
"....No doubt you are aware that Apple recently released updated version of its flagship prosumer desktop iMac as well as updated Mac Mini too...."
The above is missing a couple of "an"s I think! It reads strangely.
And:
"...Or, if your like me ..."
Sorry but what's a "like me" ? Is it like a lychee? :)
They're simple little mistakes, but come on, all it takes is a couple of minutes and a little bit of da effort too make shure gramma is like totally perfection.
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Jack said 3:52PM on 8-13-2007
@ Steve Grenier
There are no benchmarks on the 2.8 because no one has one yet. Retail stores aren't getting them until the end of August, and people will start getting them next week or the end of this week if they ordered them on-line.
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Billy K said 3:58PM on 8-13-2007
I made it to the friendly neighborhood Apple Store this weekend and saw the new iMac in person. My quick impressions:
- I noticed a speed difference (I have a last-gen 24" 2.16Ghz iMac).
- The glare issue is real. The screen is really, really glossy. Enough to probably keep me off one, at least for while.
- The design really is more striking than pictures can relate (my personal opinion - I dislike it. But that's my opinion. I'm betting a lot of people will like it)
-They were flying out the door. I mean a lot of people carrying brand new iMacs home. Of course, you can't extrapolate anything from this, except that there was a lot of interest (but the iPhone was still the center of attention).
- The white cables make no sense anymore from a design standpoint. They really need to go.
Oh, and the logo on the front is, indeed black. I thought it was chrome, and I might've even said that to someone here when they commented on the black logo. If so, I stand corrected.
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James Donevan said 4:04PM on 8-13-2007
Basically a useless, meaningless comparison given Primate Labs did not have a 2.8 machine. They test the highest spec old model against the second best new model. What's wrong with this picture?
Why bother if you cannot actually compare the box with maximum speed.
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Jonas R. J. said 4:26PM on 8-13-2007
It should have been a white Apple logo instead of a black!
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Ben C said 4:27PM on 8-13-2007
@Al
Seriously, what kind of 8th grade drop-out makes grammatical mistakes like that? TUAW, if you want to be taken seriously, improve the quality of your posts and blog-writers.
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Jacques Lema said 4:57PM on 8-13-2007
The graphics card on the higher en models look neat. Any idea how these perform with CoreImage apps when compared to the previous X1600?
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