Boot Camp to require Leopard?
Apple recently posted a Support Document on Boot Camp reminding users that Boot Camp is time-limited beta software which expires when Leopard ships. We previously reported on the speculation that Apple was planning to charge for Boot Camp. However, this support document states flatly: "The license to use Boot Camp Beta expires when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is available to the public. To continue using Boot Camp at that time, upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard."It's not clear that the Boot Camp beta would necessarily stop working with Tiger once Leopard ships, but it does seem that Apple is revoking any license to use it past that point. It's also not clear whether Apple might sell Tiger users a Boot Camp license separately from Leopard (à la iChat AV in Jaguar).
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As someone who just cranked out nearly 2k for a new iMac this past month, I wonder if I'm expected to pay full price for Leopard, or if Apple will be kind and give us some kind of window for upgrading as new users.
I mean, if I'd waited a month and a half, I could get Leopard pre-installed for the same price I paid for my iMac with 10.4 on it. It's not something that makes me happy-- thinking that the OS that came with my computer is going to be up-to-date and relevant for all of 45 days or so before asking me to spend ANOTHER $100+ to get up to speed.
I hope they're nice about this...
Speaking of reading....
"Your rights under this License will also terminate automatically without notice from Apple if you fail to comply with any term(s) of this License. Upon the termination of this License, you shall cease all use of the Apple Software and destroy all copies, full or partial, of the Apple Software."
That tells me, that under the licence, i am to delete my windows partition and the installer, assistant, and tools inside my Windows partition on the day that leopard releases. (Full or partial... that would include the windows drivers for mac)
Boot Camp will continue to function properly however the Boot Camp Setup Assistant will cease to function. YOU WILL NOT LOSE YOUR BOOT CAMPED PARTITIONS and they will continue to work as they do now, you will just be unavailable to create any new ones.
October 02 2007 at 11:20 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think the problem was people *did* read Apple's support doc:
"The license to use Boot Camp Beta expires when Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is available to the public. To continue using Boot Camp at that time, upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard."
So why not clarify these same items in the support doc? And why expire the license before the Assistant software? Why not just leave the license and software in place with a bit of a grace period overlapping the release of the OS? That's not uncommon in beta software; it's not such a big deal with applications, but a bootloader / operating system is a different beast.
Yes, the good news is, you can continue to operate normally, though in violation of your user terms. (I promise not to tell.) But people can be forgiven for misunderstanding the above language.
Good lord. can't you people READ???
The bootcamp set up assistant will stop working when the beta expires! Nothing else!
Your windows will still work. you can still choose which OS to boot from.
And Tim Middle, just upgrade to the current bootcamp and you will be fine.
Stop whining and read!
We have bought some reconditioned mac minis (and a couple new) and some iMacs to use in the office for workstations. They are all using bootcamp and windows XP since the office software is now windows based. These are the best windows machines we have ever gotten for this purpose. We don't use tiger on these. We keep looking for software which runs on mac os x but right now, it's not ready. So....we need bootcamp to work!
October 02 2007 at 8:57 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI don't see the problem? Nearly every user will upgrade to 10.5 at some point. 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 will be out by christmas. Problem fixed, just upgrade at xmas days before the beta runs out.
Are you guys stoned when you write these entries? Boot Camp beta terms and conditions explicitly stated this from day 1. Anyone who's building a business on beta software best read terms and conditions first!
You do a disservice to the Mac community when you write from the perspective of the most misinformed. You propagate the madness. Please, for the love of blogs, get a clue!!
@22
you will still be able to sell Macs to your customers or friends because of Bootcamp. Since every Mac, after the release of Leopard, will run the new OSX.
Apple has not understood the basics of marketing apparently. You cannot give people something for free and then take it away from them, because it is the single best way to get them angry!!!
This move once again proves Apple is in the hands of some "rampant young money striving managers" who don't respect nor understand customers and the basics of marketing. BootCamp is not going to be a selling point of Leopard, the rest of the OS is! So don't take it away from Tiger customers, or at least give them the option to pay for it and keep it.
The selling points of Leopard are going to be the added functionalities, the fact that it is going to be built in in every new Mac, the fact it doesn't cost a fortune, it exists in only one version (I HOPE!), the fact that it runs on almost every machine smoothly and you don't have to run some weird performance check or hw upgrade path prior to installing.
Hope managers are reading this. Let people who NEED it (I bet few use BootCamp because they like Windows better, it's because they need it!!) use it! And provide us with a stable, smooth and feature packed Leopard so that we have a real reason to upgrade, not just business tactics.
I just tried to use my merge my bootcamp partition back to one drive and bootcamp just said it was expired. Has anybody experienced this?
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