Leopard Spotlight: Preparing for Time Machine

One of the most visible new features in Leopard is Apple's integrated backup tool, Time Machine. Taking backups -- a chore that few people do and even fewer do correctly -- and making them one-click simple is bound to improve the lives of millions of Mac users who, despite being practically perfect in every way, sometimes delete files they don't mean to delete. (I know, painful but true.)
There is a lot of excitement about Time Machine, but also some confusion; reader Matteo wrote in from Switzerland to ask that we cover some basics for setting up Time Machine. Your wish; our command. Most of our answers are gleaned from Apple's feature page for TM, a worthwhile read.
Q: What is the suggested size of an external drive to be used with TM? Does it have to be at least the same size of the startup drive? Twice as big? Half as big?
A: Apple hasn't published a recommended ratio of source to target size for Time Machine, but "as big as you can afford" is a good place to start. With TM's backup approach, any files changed in the last hour are backed up -- this lets you 'scroll into the past' and see the state of your files at an earlier time. With the default hourly snapshot scheme, frequent modifications to large files will eat up disk space in a hurry. Some especially bulky and dynamic files (I'm looking at you, Entourage's main database) will probably have to be excluded from TM backups, reducing their utility somewhat.
I'd recommend a baseline of 2x your source drive for your backup drive; depending on your level of activity, that may last you for a while. TM tries to keep hourly backups for the past 24 hours, daily backups for the past month, and weekly backups for everything older than a month -- it will warn you before it begins deleting older backups -- so a twice-as-big external should do pretty well. Apple's got a deal on a 500 GB external Iomega drive for $140 right now (thanks Evan); you can use USB or Firewire drives for TM, and even back up to another machine or to a shared/SAN volume if you've got the setup.
Q: Can Time Machine "store" the changes even if I am on the road with my Mac and then sync them once I connect the backup drive?
A: Not positive, but I believe the answer is yes, after a fashion. You won't get the same hourly snapshots that would kick in if the backup drive was connected, but TM will still note all the changed files. Once you get back and plug in, you'd get a 'catch-up' backup with all the changes between disconnect and reconnect. This means that you can't roll back to intermediate file states that happened on the road, but it's better than nothing.
Q: Does the HD have to be formatted in a particular format or can the software work with "any" HD?
A: Apple says HFS+, and that's all that's required. USB, Firewire, remote volumes, whatever you like; the TM backup is just a big folder as far as the drive is concerned.
If you've got more Time Machine questions, let us know!
Update: Some additional questions from the comments..
Stack -- How will Time Machine backups on a server work? For instance, I'll be running Time Machine with two drives on my Leopard server. The second drive will be a Time Machine drive for the main drive. Can I also share that same Time Machine drive on the network for my laptops to back up to?
If there's enough room, sure -- although note that the TM backups for the server may keep the drive busy. Remember, a Time Machine backup target is just a folder as far as the drive is concerned. If you can put a folder there, you can back up there.
Josh -- Anyone know how this will work with Parallels? Since the Parallels virtual hard drive is one file that is changing all the time, will all (10+GB) be update regularly (i.e. every hour, every day, every week)? And if so what type of impact on one's backup drive will that have?
This comes under the same banner as the Entourage DB. You'll probably need to exclude it from Time Machine's scope, otherwise it will get backed up over and over again and eat your space.
Mando -- What about if the HD is USB, and your Mac crashes. Can you then restore from a USB drive? I have a G5 and i think booting from a USB drive is unsupported.
You actually can't boot directly from any TM backup, USB notwithstanding. To restore a TM backup to an unbootable machine, you are supposed to start up from your Leopard DVD; there's an option to restore directly from there. You can also use TM backups as a data source for Migration Assistant, 'cloning' your machine from the backup.
I've heard that TM will prompt you to backup your main drive prior to installing Leopard so that you can revert back to tiger if you run into issues with the install. Is this true? And if you backup with TM, then do a clean install of Leopard can you migrate you old apps over?
You are prompted for TM setup during your Leopard install. I'm not sure how well a "rollback to Tiger" via TM would work. As noted above, you can use TM backups as a source for Migration Assistant, so you could migrate your applications that way after a clean Leopard install.
I only hear about USB or firewire disks - does anybody know whether TM will work with a harddrive attached to my Airport extreme base station?
what about backing up to an hdd connected to an airport extreme? i think i remember steve saying this was supported way back at wwdc when he announced leopard.
My wife and I both have powerbooks. I'd like to set up a new airport extreme with a big external drive. 2 questions.
1. Can Time machine work over airport?
2. If it is running allthe time, what happens if I sleep, or shut down while TM is saving?
Yes (yes yes). An HFS+ drive attached to an Airport Extreme is a valid target for TM backups, and should work just fine. The jury is still out on drives attached to the Airport Extreme -- there have been conflicting statements. Current spec does not include the AEBS, but it may support it later. Regarding sleep or shutdown, TM is supposed to be smart enough to pick up where it left off if a backup pass is incomplete. Since TM gets its information about changed and updated files via the same APIs that Spotlight uses to index your drives, it should keep track of what's new without too much trouble, and start at the right spot.
Does anyone know if TM will pull files from other externals as well, or will it only backup your internal drive? I keep most of my files on an external, because my internal isn't big enough. If TM won't pull from that external, it's kind of useless (to me).
I can't verify this one way or the other right now. I think you can select additional sources for backup, but I'm not sure. If not, there are many other excellent choices for backup apps. Verified, TM defaults to backing up every mounted local drive on your machine (except the backup target); you have to exclude the drives you DON'T want to back up.
The question that seems to stay unanswered is how will TM work with network drives? We're looking for a LaCie Ethernet RAID for backups for the office - will TM work with that?
The question is answered -- any HFS+ volume, local or remote, will work for Time Machine. However, the LaCie Ethernet RAID does not support HFS+ or AFP directly (see specs here) and so I would NOT expect that particular device to work. Apple says: "You can designate just about any HFS+ formatted FireWire or USB drive connected to a Mac as a Time Machine backup drive. Time Machine can also back up to another Mac running Leopard with Personal File Sharing, Leopard Server, or Xsan storage devices."
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My Spotlight insists on indexing my time machine drive, which strikes me as a waste of time and space. Does anyone know how to tell Spotlight to ignore the Time Machine drive?
Thanks.
So basically I have to carry my external hard drive to take the backups for all the changes I have made in the file. Lets say I am out of town for a week or couple of days and I am not carrying my big external backup hard drive (2x GB of the main drive), and while I'm away I need to look at some files which I had deleted or had modified. What now? Time machine feature doesn't convince me of much use for a powerbook or macbook. It indeed is a useful feature BUT only for iMacs or Mac Pro.
November 05 2007 at 7:14 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAnyone know if Time Machine will work on a secondary internal HD?
I have a Powermac with two internal drives, one for the OS and one for everything else. I may not even need to use TM, but would like to know if it will work on internal drives as well.
backing up over AEBS: definitely doesn't work.
backing up one machine to another's shared volume: doesn't seem to work either, I'd like to hear from someone who has made this work. I looks like it is working, streams data for hours, but all I end up with is a zero length sparse file.
Rob: Not necessary. Time Machine makes a folder on the drive and stores all the backups in that folder. If you want to partition, you can, but it's your choice.
October 30 2007 at 11:10 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt seems Time Machine will not encrypt backups, and I can't even get it to see the encrypted disk images I have. So apparently no encryption whatsoever is supported. This makes Time Machine totally worthless to me. Very annoying and removes most of the incremental value of Leopard for me.
October 26 2007 at 11:45 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI haven't seen this question answered anywhere. I'm about to buy a Mac Mini which comes with 120G drive. I have a 500G external I plan on using for mass storage and time machine. Does time machine require the full disk or just a partition on the disk? To simplify, do I have to use the entire disk for Time Machine or can I use say, half of it?
October 26 2007 at 12:00 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyCan I backup to an intenal drive? I got a 1 GB SATA drive that I was hoping to use for this. Doing it only to external drives seems silly because they are slower and more expensive than internal drives.
October 22 2007 at 6:57 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe thing with the LaCie RAID could be a problem only for the RAID systems. I've checked LaCie's website and the one I want to use does support AFP. I'm probably going for a "LaCie Big Ethernet Disk" at home and a more reliable "LaCie Ethernet Disk" (may be 2 of them, one as backup) at work. It's not the same as a RAID (in speed at least, don't know about reliability in the backuped version). Can Anyone confirm that this models should work?
October 22 2007 at 9:01 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyhttp://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/
This specifically says an additional drive.
You say any folder.
Can I back up to a 10.4 machine over ethernet?
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