Delicious Library 2 preview

hello
can you m ' inform when the new version came from delicious library
for leopard in version french
thank you

>But hey--if a book will "shatter" when I delete it, then I guess that makes all the difference.

LOL. Yes, this program is just eye candy. Otherwise it's pure garbage. I bought it and spent a HUGE amount of time scanning in my books. I organized them carefully by the shelf they were on and labelled everything. Stupid, yes. Because I then typed in a book and realized... OMFG! There is no way for DL to know which shelf the book is on, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE WAY IT REPRESENTS THEM.

I don't know why Will Shipley has such a great reputation. I think maybe it's because he's everyone's drinking buddy, maybe it's because he programmed DL in a Seattle coffeehouse, or maybe its that awesome icon. In any case, save the upgrade dude. This program was a waste of MY money.

4. It lets you keep track of the books you have read so you can give away or trade the books.
You can keep track by year of how many books you read. Its amazing how they can add up!
Also, if you really liked a book you can find similar ones through the link at amazon.
I really like it, but if you like keeping a lot of books on shelves maybe that works for you, I have a small apartment and like to trade them away and get new ones and like the visuals on my computer.

Is the huge amount of hard drive space it gobbles up fixed? I recently had to recover a user's hard drive and Delicious Library ate several hundreds of MB in triplicates or was it quadruplicates? etc of images. The number of images was more than a thumbnail & full res cover.

Admittingly I haven't looked at DL recently, as it was far too limited.

How about other things than books, games, movies - like comics, tapes, ... and custom entries?
Subcategories/shelves? Click on movies, quick access right below it to the different genres of movies by genre.
Can it differentiate for DVDs, VCDs, VHS, etc?
Can you create a custom item shelf/shelves? For collections of other items, collectables, materials.

Still limited to Amazon only. With foreign movies this certainly is a problem.

Also, in my trial in the past, it was hit or miss to actually import the data from Amazon. Many times you'd have to have the result on screen in your browser in Amazon, then drag it over.

It looks to me like they are simply trying to win another award rather than come out with a truly useful product. It's all about using new Leopard technologies, regardless of whether or not those are implemented in a fashion that makes it useful.

It will be pretty, I'm sure, but that's it. It has a long way to go to catch up with the Pedias. I'm a switcher. I switched from DL to DVDPedia. In just a day I already made far more use than in 2 years of DL ownership. I was writing HTML export templates in minutes.

DL2 is playing catch up to a better app. It's the Vista of media organizing apps on the Mac. It has some new eye candy and is desperately trying to add functionality that has been around elsewhere for years.

And why would a book shatter? That's so stupid. Books don't shatter so why would that be the chosen effect when you delete? How many man-hours were put into a feature that is only rarely used? Think about it, how often do you delete books/CDs/DVDs from your collection? Isn't the point of all of us being so anal to want to catalog that we specifically DON'T want to delete items?

Style over substance. It will give some reviewers a boner and generate some decent business I suppose, but ultimately it won't be as useful as the current Pedias.

@ 20. Connor
> Maybe I will have to add some glow and shattering effects of my own
>

In a way: yes!

I tried Bookpedia (BP) and Delicious Library (DL).

BP was better in almost every aspect, but in the end I purchased DL!

Why? Because I'm not a librarian who gets paid for cataloging books. I just do it in my sparetime - for fun! And fun is the one thing DL does better than its competitors. Using DL is more like playing a game than feeding a database application. Every time I enter an ISBN, I get instant gratification by seeing a beautifully rendered book graphic appearing on a wooden shelf, not just a flat cover surrounded by data.

An when I'm browsing through my DL, I'm enjoying an experience that is even more satisfying than looking at the real book shelf next to me, because I can sort the titles in different ways and their covers are facing me. And in spite of these digital advantages, I don't have to do without a pleasing book-shelf-like look, which would be the case when using BP.

A physical bookshelf has its advantages and a competent library software like BP has its advantages, but DL is a nice compromise between the two.

The presentation aspect is another one: I would be considered a boring nerd if I showed my BP database to friends or colleagues. Nobody wants to scroll through a spreadsheet-like program to look at other peoples' book lists. When I show them DL, they instantly grasp what's fascinating about having all your book data on your laptop and everyone likes to browse this library and you get into talking about the books you own, which wouldn't be the case with a serious and "boring" application like BP.

So, yes: You should do more eye candy if you want to be in the same market place as DL. But ist this your market? Does the Mac platform need two DLs? BP is very good in what it does, beeing a feature rich, serious and competent book database instead of an entertainment program like DL.

And DL is even good for BP, because without DL, less people would have gotten into this whole media cataloging thing. I wouldn't have discovered BP if I hadn't known of DL before. Many people are getting interested in this software genre through DL because of its superb marketing and eye candy. And a bunch of them will feel the need for somtehing more feature rich after testing out DL and will therupon "upgrade" to BP.

Mark me down as another satisfied DVD/Book/CD pedia user.

@StevenC

Shouldn't this be the case for all DL users then?

I mean when I first "came back" to the Mac in the early Jaguar days, everybody seemed to be talking about DL and how great it was (like now), you know more or less like a Mac benchmark application for others to follow.

It (DL) may have more eye candy, but the *Pedias are much more powerful in functionalities, and in the end more useful.

I would also suggest taking a look at Booxter 2.0 (http://www.deepprose.com) which will keep track of your books, music, movies, and also comic books. It's been around for many years, has just been updated with a lot of great features, and is available right now. It can also import from Delicious Library, so if you are a current Delicious Library user, you can download Booxter and try it out.

I'm a current Delicious Library user. Thanks to the comments on this DL2 preview, I just discovered the *Pedia apps. Healthy competition is a good thing for end-users.

I'm not convinced that DL2's eye candy will be worth the upgrade cost, and Bookpedia's speed, additional features, and ease of migration from Delicious Library just won me over. It imported my enormous DL library absolutely seamlessly.

I'm switching to Bookpedia.