iPod account limit
This situation will probably not affect most iPod owners but there is a 5 account limit in place for iPod song syncs. Although iTunes seems to be able to handle songs from an unlimited number of accounts, you can sync music from up to 5 accounts to any one iPod and not more. Bad news for large families with multiple accounts, but good news for the RIAA I suppose.
Update: So Mike and I ended up in a discussion about this. My point was that it made sense to create accounts for your kids so that they were licensed to their own music and could take their music with them when they went off to college. Mike answered that people should just buy DRM-free music at Amazon or Amie Street or wherever. My question to any lawyers out there is whether it's legal to gift un-DRMed MP3s to your kids and let them "take' the music with them. Thoughts?
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This situation will probably not affect most iPod owners but there is a 5 account limit in place for iPod song syncs. Although iTunes...
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Erica, in a world where music industry execs considering ripping CDs you own for personal use thievery, I would consider gifting DRMed music definitely illegal. That said, insane would be a kind word to describe the aforementioned exec's stance on this. *shrugs* I usually do what I want with things I own, and I don't use more than 1 iTunes account, so I think I'm good.
December 11 2007 at 10:50 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMy question to any lawyers out there is whether it's legal to gift un-DRMed MP3s to your kids and let them "take' the music with them. Thoughts?
Sheesh. No, it's probably not legal, but who cares?!!!??
It's not like anyone would fid out and/or care.
I've ripped CDs and copied them for friends. What's different about D/L-ed music?
Nothing is different about downloaded music.
- Ripping CDs from friends and copying your CDs for friends is illegal.
- Getting MP3s from friends and copying MP3s for friends is illegal.
If you copy any music to which you have a right to listen for anyone, you must delete your original copy. There cannot be more copies of that music than licenses sold.
It's pretty straightforward, but not a lot of people seem to understand. Just pay for music like consumers have for decades. If it's not a fair price you have the right to shop around or decide it's not worth it to you.
Essentially, and to answer your question, yes. You can 'gift' your DRM-laden songs to your kids.
That is, as long as this gift works like a gift in the traditional and tangible sense.
For example - Your child is going away to college and you choose that you want to gift to them a specific item, let's say the watch that was given to you by your parent when leaving for college yourself. You hand over that watch and it becomes theirs. It is not yours anymore, and you have no remains of it save for its memory.
The same goes with the music. When you give it to someone, the license to enjoy that song has transferred to their possession. The file remains on your disc, while a copy of it has appeared on theirs, too. But the license is no longer held by you.
Kind of hard to follow, because a license is even less tangible than the song file or DRM itself. Since the license is mostly just a set of legal guidelines it's a lot harder to follow than a visible data file or tangible recorded medium.
I hope all this has helped you to understand it better. I explain this stuff a lot when I'm working. (lots of Mac and iPod sales.)
I have a thought:
F*** the RIAA. I sit in eager anticipation of the day when the record labels realize the RIAA is hurting them (and the customer) and just leaves them to die.
Not an attorney here, but I used to play one on TV...
I believe the gifting of non-DRM music would be entirely legal as long as only the gift recipient maintained copies on their computer, UNLESS of course the licensing agreement you clicked "yes" on when purchasing said it was for your own use only and you agreed to those terms.
Even so, a basic argument that you bought the song, downloaded it, gave a copy to your child and then deleted the copies on your machine might hold water. It's like software licensing, you can install it on however many machines you like as long as no two machines are using it at the same time.
This isn't a news site; it's a blog. Anything the editors think is of interest is fair game. And I didn't know about this account limit either.
Cheers Erica! We still like you! Really! Yeah! Oh yeah! Uh-huh!
*MWAH!* *MWAH!*
Y'know, it may be old news, but I've never heard of it. Guys, don't go hating on Erica, because some of us may not know this or never know it at all. Certainly news to me, and I've owned five ipods since the 3rd gen model.
@ EricaSucks: That was pretty uncalled for, dude.
Legal, probably not. Remember that un-DRMing is considered against the law. According to the RIAA, even ripping your own legally-purchased CDs is against the law.
Ethical and fair? Probably.
Would it stand up in court? Well... before the early October jury decision in the case of Jammie Thomas v. RIAA, I'd say it probably would. But even though it was regarding file sharing, that case set bad precedence for just about anyone who the RIAA decides to point a finger at.
Let's just say that at this point the industry is still concerned with file sharers. Stripping DRM so your child can keep listening to a legally-purchased track is not, at this time, going to get you sued.
Keep in mind that if you strip the DRM from a song, you should delete the original protected track. You should never have two copies when you only paid for one.
Since when has TUAW be populated by a bunch of nagging assholes? Seems like on every one of Erica's posts, I read comments bitching about it not being "news". Guess what? This isn't a news site morons, it's a blog. The writers can write about whatever the hell they want, and you people can just not read the articles you don't like, and more importantly not keep checking TUAW every 5 minutes about to shit your pants waiting for a new post.
December 10 2007 at 3:27 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyErica, these commenters have been deliberately bad in hopes that you'll put on the Catwoman suit and dispense spankings.
Yeah sure, it'd old news- but get a grip ya bunch of crybabies.
Oh, and Erica, while you're in the Catwoman suit...
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