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What's the deal with Entourage 2008 and Blackberry sync?

If you've got a Blackberry that you plan to sync with Entourage 2008 (other than via Exchange and a Blackberry Enterprise Server, which could give two figs for your client application -- although as a commenter points out, BES still doesn't fully support sent mail or read/unread sync from Entourage), you might run into some difficulty. No, you'll be fine. Well, now we're not sure. What's all this fuss about?

Let's start with this post from MacWindows, which raises the alarm: Microsoft dropped direct BlackBerry syncing in Entourage 2008, the headline reads. Uh-oh, whatever shall we do? The article reports that the plug-in that enabled direct synchronization of Entourage to Blackberries will not be supported in 2008 by Microsoft or Missing Sync, and all synchronization must take place via Apple's Sync Services framework.

Gosh, that's scary news, except that it's complete hogwash, says Mac pundit/gadfly John Welch. While Entourage 2004 did support Palm synchronization via a HotSync plugin that's now absent in 2008, the Blackberry sync process was always handled by Entourage's interface to Sync Services, the same underlying technology that connected Entourage to Address Book and iCal. Did MacWindows talk to someone at Mark/Space who mixed up the two sync technologies, or was the confusion on the reporting end? Welch is pretty sure where the problem lies.

All that said, it should be safe to sync Entourage with your Sync Services clients, right? Not so fast, say the mavens at the Entourage Help Blog. Since Entourage 2008 shipped, there have been plenty of reports of issues with Sync Services, including some catastrophic cases of data loss. The recommendation of the experts is to leave Sync Services off for now until Microsoft can address some of these problems. Once that's taken care of, both Mark/Space and PocketMac say that Entourage 2008 should be supportable for calendar and contact sync. What a relief.

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Jonny Wilde

There is a solution, involving entourage sync with ical and then pocketmac sync with ical, after a bit of fudging it works well, and you can then use ical to publish a web based calendar too!

Works for me!

February 27 2008 at 11:56 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Douglas

Great! What is the solution, exactly? Could you describe what "fudging" means in this context?

March 06 2008 at 10:56 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Robo

You know, I'm just not that smart.....As with the PC version, all I'd like to do is install the software and sync my Blackberry...No muss, no fuss....this is frustrating because I learned to live with the limitations of Entourage 2004 vs. my PC (The PC sync. was the best I've ever seen), but this....I'd have never installed 2008 or would have at least waited, had I know...

February 09 2008 at 3:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ChillyWilly

And not just issues with Blackberrys. Palm Treos are also a mixed bag, as are most handheld syncing.

If you have Entourage 2004 still, stay with it or migrate back to it if you need to sync.

January 29 2008 at 11:02 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tim

Sync is screwed up in general anyway. I turned on synching with my Mac Address Book, and it proceeded to create duplicate address card entries in Entourage Address Book each time I opened Mac Address Book. I turned the service off after I found myself with EIGHT duplicate entries.

Seriously, it feels like beta software. Did they test any of this?

January 29 2008 at 10:31 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ChrisW

The article definitely confuses Missing Sync for BlackBerry with Missing Sync for Windows Mobile.

Regardless, both products should work with Entourage 2008 via Sync Services.

Here's the scoop:

1. Missing Sync for BlackBerry never communicated directly with Entourage. Instead, both Entourage and Missing Sync use Apple's Sync Services framework. Nothing should have changed in Entourage 2008. If users are having problems, they should let both Mark/Space and Microsoft know.

2. Missing Sync for *Windows Mobile* does have a separate plugin to talk directly to Entourage in addition to Sync Services support. The main reason for this is historical -- MSWM was written before Sync Services existed. Users can just turn on Sync Services support within Entourage and use the other built-in plugins (contacts, calendar, etc) in Missing Sync and all should be well.

It is recommended that you back up all of your databases first and it may at times be necessary to do a "Mac overwrites device" sync first if switching between plugins to avoid duplicating records. [This may delete unsync'd records from the device, so you should do one last sync beforehand]

The one thing lost shifting over to Sync Services support is keeping track of which calendar a given event is in. This is a limitation in Entourage's Sync Services support. In iCal every event must be in a single calendar whereas Entourage supports multiple categories per item. All Entourage events will show up in a single "Entourage" category on the device.

Hope this clears everything up.


January 29 2008 at 9:26 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mo

Do you think there's a chance Microsoft could release a piece of software for any platform that doesn't suck in blindingly obvious ways until the first set of patches have been released?

I want my drag-and-drop installation back. And an installation that doesn't need a reboot. And doesn't require administrative privileges (just like every other piece of software I have except those from Adobe and Apple) to install, and doesn't use those privileges to screw up the permissions of the files it installs. And can actually use SyncServices without trashing your data.

Please?

January 29 2008 at 8:21 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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