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Is your Airport Extreme suddenly Time Machine-happy?

Update 9 pm ET: Our comrade David Chartier from Ars Technica points out that the 7.1.3 firmware itself may not be necessary for the new functionality to work; he says he tested a 7.1 AEBS with a machine running Time Capsule & Airport 1.0, and Time Machine was able to see the remote disk. Other readers have reminded us that the disk must be formatted as HFS+ with journaling, and you may have to mount it in the Finder before Time Machine sees it. The freeware TimeMachineScheduler is disabled by this update, comments note.

Update 6:45 am Thursday: More comments point out that if you take a locally-connected Time Machine drive and attach it to an AEBS, you will be starting over with new backups (because the remote backups are stored on sparseimages, not as folders). Something to keep in mind if you already have a long backup history -- you might want to use a different drive.

Sometimes the fixes are subtle and quiet. Once TUAW reader Peder downloaded today's Airport updates and ran the utility, he noticed a new version of the Airport Extreme firmware queued up and ready (v7.3.1). When he installed and rebooted his AEBS -- which happened to have a USB hard drive hanging off of it... well, let him tell you:

After downloading the latest Airport-update I checked for updates for my AirPort Extreme. After upgrading to version 7.3.1, Time Machine recognised the attached USB-drive.

If this is a reproducible result -- this means you, everyone, go ahead and start testing this firmware! -- that means that the now-you-see-it, now-you-don't Time Machine to AirDisk feature of Leopard has finally arrived. Sure, the Time Capsule is a one-piece solution and quite economical, but for all the AEBS owners out there who have been waiting patiently, this would be a very nice bit of March madness indeed. [Response to "just-a-guy" below: Remember, this is the Airport EXTREME only; the Express doesn't support AirDisk at all.]

Seeing the same results as Peder? By all means let us know. He was kind enough to send us a few screenshots, see below.



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KCK

any updates on apple supporting wireless backups to drive teathered to AEBS via Time Machine?

June 11 2008 at 12:22 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Descartes

Do not install latest Airport Extreme firmware update which disables all " Bonjour Printing" / wireless printing. Check the Apple discussions tons of users left in the cold and no word from Apple

April 02 2008 at 10:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
howlongtoretire

Finally worked using the method of starting (then stopping) the backup and changing to the physical connection until complete. Subsequent wireless backups to the sparse file are working.

March 25 2008 at 9:48 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Brian

If you are still having problems with your disks not being seen with TM, and you are starting out fresh, use disk utility to partition the drive; using the proper partition map for your machines: Apple partition map = PPC, GUID partition table = MacIntel. Then, for the format: Mac OS X Extended (Journaled).

Next; with sharing, are you using AFP or SMB, you should be using AFP. Now for my part: I don't have AEBS, but use my iMac for my wireless TM back ups. I noticed that a drive connected to the computer makes folders, one connected via a share is a sparse image; make a choice now, and keep to it, just like the schedule for your back up routine. if you choose to use the sparse image route, you can then have a second back up to keep offsite (just in case of flood or fire).

Oh, and if you did not know, TM does not back up Mail.app!!!
I had my G4 iBook repaired and used TM to get back to were I left off, but Mail.app started out fresh, no old mail nor the accounts.

You should scream at Apple for this, not about wireless back ups. TM is not backing up everything as advertised.
(Tiger Mail backed up fine, by coping the whole folder or zipping it up. Leopard Mail does not work that way.)

All other Apps, files and folders are fine when you restore from TM.

March 23 2008 at 12:31 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
PAR

Has anyone done a successful full restore (everything OS/apps/settings/etc) from a TM backup made exclusively via wifi after the 3/19 updates?

March 22 2008 at 1:22 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SweetBlue

Here's a TimeMachine time saver for doing your initial wireless backup. I found this tip in another forum and it worked perfectly for me (YMMV):

I started the TimeMachine b/up wirelessly, allowed it to run for a couple minutes, then stopped it, unplugged the USB drive from the AEBS, plugged it into the computer directly via FW400, opened TimeMachine and it recognized the Disk. Ran TimeMachine via the wired connection, after it finished I ejected it, plugged it back into the AEBS, initiated the AirDisk in the finder, then opened TimeMachine and presto!!

Awesome tip. Note: this works for first-time TimeMachine wireless backups only. Saved me over 40 hours of wireless waiting!!

March 21 2008 at 8:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
briany

As a word of caution, I have yet to successfully complete a backup of 130gb of data from my MacBook Pro to my AirDisk. Three attempts have failed. The first 1 ended with the Screen o' Death and a corrupt sparse image on my AirDisk.

The next two failed more gracefully with Time Machine reporting an error while creating the backup. I would be very careful with this.

As for Time Machine recognizing my Air Disk, it worked on the first try with a newly formatted miniStack v2.

March 21 2008 at 2:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rex Anderson

Just got off the phone with an Apple Care product specialist; he iterated what many in this thread have already posted: Apple is not (yet?) supporting AirDisk Time Machine Backups. In spite of the fact that Time Machine automatically creates a sparse-image on the backup volume, it is not recommended to see the process through! In my case, the Disk Image T.M. created many a Red Phrase in "Verify Disk"-all of which were successfully repaired in Disk Utility.
Word to the [adventurous] wise-proceed with caution when playing around with this half-baked version of Time Machine.

March 20 2008 at 10:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
narkelo

Just updated to 7.3.1, working like a charm

March 20 2008 at 7:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Richard

Yeah I got this to work. I basically deleted my old backups on the drive as I don't need them and started a fresh. It took Time Machine a few seconds to find the external HD on the AEBS, but it has all worked fine since then.

March 20 2008 at 6:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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