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Flow goes 1.0
- QuickLook
- Built-in editor
- FTP, SFTP, WebDAV, .Mac, and local FTP
- Droplets to upload quickly
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Jam said 10:34PM on 4-06-2008
I have to say, when I was on windows, little apps like these were open source or freeware.
It really annoys me how developers make an FTP client and charge $30 for it. Or a Torrent client or an icon changer or a data burning application that are so easy to code that a monkey could do it but they charge $20-$30.
There has to be something said about how easy it is to find decent open source or freeware applications to do this sort of stuff.
FileZilla comes to mind with the FTP situation specifically.
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Ian Beck said 10:38PM on 4-06-2008
FileZilla makes me sad. Best I've found for Windows, but if you need a free FTP program on Mac I strongly recommend Cyberduck.
Bryan Arnold said 11:35PM on 4-06-2008
FilleZilla is available for mac also, FYI.
Max Goedjen said 11:43PM on 4-06-2008
Well, if it's that easy, you ought to head up an open source Mac ftp client yourself! Until then, I'll keep using Transmit/Coda.
Luke Seeley said 12:51AM on 4-07-2008
When your full time job is building an easy-to-use FTP client with a delightful GUI, I'd think you'd want to be paid for it. Who are you to telling these guys/girls that they are charging too much?
Free FTP clients are available, if someone wants to spend more money on a superior UX, then they have that option too.
I can use FileZilla, sure, or Cyberduck and it will do what I need it to do, but there's something to be said for the delight I experience when I use $20 Mac apps like these—I enjoy using these apps, not just because they get things done, but because they also encourage smiling along the way.
x86_64 said 1:42AM on 4-07-2008
If you full time job is writing a FTP application like Flow then you need to re-evaluate your life because to be quite frank an app like this could be written in 2 or 3 days if it was being worked on full time.
I'm a Developer and more importantly I'm a consumer. that is who I am, and that is what gives me the right to judge the pricing scheme on these 'gadgets'. I would never charge for something so simple like these, it doesn't even have features that you can get from free alternatives, it belittles the intelligence of the buying public to charge for this.
I see Apps like these all over the Mac platform, like AppZapper. It's an application that uninstalls your application dependencies when you place the .app in to the AppZapper window. Why are they charging for this? Because Mac users are happy to be ripped off I suppose?
It reads what dependencies the app uses and moves them to the Trash, how hard do you think that is to write. I mean seriously. Candybar is an icon changer and it literally batch-changes icons. And they charge money for this application too.
If these people are making these as full time apps that is really scary to me.
I guess the saying 'A fool and his money are soon parted' is really quite true.
Jonathan Wise said 10:10AM on 4-07-2008
Although I agree the pricing is high, I do think its fair for Mac Developers to charge a little money for their software -- especially given that when compared to the Windows equivalents, the Mac versions are typically of a much higher quality.
I'm a long time CyberDuck user, but I've grown frustrated with its crashiness and I'm in the market for a new FTP client. I'll definitely check out Flow!
Chad Zeluff said 11:31AM on 4-07-2008
Regarding "good" freeware apps on Mac vs Windows: I've seen it on both ends. I think the Mac ones are severely overpriced, but they ALWAYS work. The first time I bought a program for Windows to take music from my iPod and put it on my computer, it didn't work (or if it does, theres alot of steps).
The next day I bought a Macbook Pro and downloaded Senuti for free. :)
I like Flow; it's a good app, but not 30 Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers, good.
Ian Beck said 10:35PM on 4-06-2008
Flow looks like software that may appeal to casual FTP users but doesn't appear to offer any features to tempt in people who are already happy with Transmit, Yummy, or whatever. I'm completely at a loss why you'd want an underpowered inline text editor in an FTP program when you can use something like TextMate (or a tool with built-in basic FTP like Coda or skEdit).
I'd love to hear if there's any features for Flow that people think make it competitive with the other FTP programs, though. Screenshots look somewhat pretty, but I'm still somewhat baffled what makes Flow competitive compared to the other mature FTP clients out there.
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Kevin said 2:53PM on 4-07-2008
"I'd love to hear if there's any features for Flow that people think make it competitive with the other FTP programs, though." - Me too!
I donated to Cyberduck but the constant crashing is really starting to bother me.
Quix said 10:52PM on 4-06-2008
"I have to say, when I was on windows, little apps like these were open source or freeware." - Jam
Actually, I find more helpful freebies on the Mac than on Windows, where everything seems to be a "limited-feature demo" for a steeply priced shareware app.
That said, I do agree that $30 is steep for an FTP app. Then you have Interarchy, for a whopping $60. Ouch.
$15 sounds like a nice sweet spot for FTP for me.
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Simon Arch said 3:03AM on 4-07-2008
Of course calling Interarchy a mere FTP client is like calling a Swiss Army Knife a mere pocket knife.
Quix said 10:53PM on 4-06-2008
Sidenote: an FTP app without Amazon S3 capability is a non-starter for me.
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akatsuki said 11:05PM on 4-06-2008
I just use MacFuse and sshfs or Yummy.
If Apple would just fix ftp in the Finder none of these would be necessary.
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Paul Bianco said 11:17PM on 4-06-2008
I've been watching and was part of the Beta Program and I have been super impressed with Flow. It's performance and interface are fantastic. I've never used Transmit, but I do own and use Forklift and Cyberduck.
Flow just seems to do just that - flow in how it works - it's smooth and responsive. $30 may be a bit steep, but I've paid, and love it!
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Techslacker said 1:49AM on 4-07-2008
Count me among the group that just doesn't get it. Yet another ftp client and one that is priced ridiculously. I only use YummyFTP because I was able to get it cheap otherwise $25 for it is really pushing it.
These are ftp clients for crying out loud. Anything new out now really needs to be a whole heck of a lot better than what's there already and I just don't see anything in Flow to warrant spending anything close to what they're asking for it.
I really think it's going to need the help of a promo or two to get into very many hands.
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Big John said 12:37AM on 4-07-2008
It's just so hard to accept paying for a simple FTP program. You don't pay for a web browser, why the hell would you pay for this? Cyberduck works great, I'll never look back.
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Christina Warren said 2:25AM on 4-07-2008
I have to say, I too just don't see the point. I like Yummy FTP A LOT -- I like Transmit too -- but from what I can tell, Flow has absolutely nothing that makes it any better than either of those options (and it is more expensive than Yummy).
I don't mind paying for an FTP app, though I would prefer one with SCP support or something on par with WS_FTP
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Peter Payne said 2:32AM on 4-07-2008
My money is on Transmit. It's the best darn thing out there. Get it instead of this.
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Simon Arch said 3:01AM on 4-07-2008
Amen. It's the golden standard.