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Vista beats OS X? Really?
ComputerWorld's Preston Gralla posted a blog entry titled, Five reasons why Vista beats Mac OS X. Clearly, this was link-bait, but you know what, I'll bite. Still, it was impossible to read the post and NOT respond. Let's take a look at Mr. Gralla's arguments and dissect them one-by-one.
1. Vista runs more software
This is unequivocally true, but also unequivocally misleading. Is more software, free and commercial, available for Windows Vista than OS X? Yes, without a doubt. Even more software is available for Windows XP than Vista. But is software ever really about quantity over quality? It shouldn't be. As a long time Windows user, I was pleasantly surprised at not only the number of programs available for Mac, but the number of high quality programs from independent software developers that were free or inexpensive.
The real crux of Gralla's argument seems to be centered around the idea of enterprise software -- and clearly, most corporate environments are running in a Windows world -- well, a Windows XP world. To make the argument that Vista runs more enterprise software than OS X is kind of laughable. Especially given the low adoption rates of Vista among big corporate clients. I have a friend at a large technology consulting firm (one of the largest, actually) who works closely with Microsoft in developing proprietary software for a very, very big client. They don't use Windows Vista on their machines -- they use XP. Employees can install Vista on their company laptops -- but most advise against it, because there are too many incompatibilities with the existing infrastructure. This is true even after Vista SP 1.
Furthermore, Galla argues that virtualization solutions like VMWare Fusion or Parallels causes more problems than solutions. Again, this is absolutely laughable in an enterprise environment, where most IT departments are using some form of VMWare anyway. Making the argument that Parallels can't play Solitaire on a Windows VM because of its lack of DirectX 9 support ignores the fact that VMWare Fusion can and does play Solitaire (and Free Cell and Hearts) very, very well. I know because I play Free Cell while waiting for my VM of Windows XP to download endless Windows Updates every time I open up Fusion to test something for DownloadSquad or hack away at my BlackBerry. Additionally, Microsoft has altered its licensing language in regards to virtual machines and Windows Vista -- making it clear that you can now install Vista on a Mac and get the same support you would otherwise.
That's just the corporate argument. Gralla doesn't address the consumer market. I'm a software nerd, especially for obscure and geeky utilities that serve little or no purpose for anyone outside a very select sector of users. Other than converting my insanely large .PST databases from my decade of Outlook usage, I have yet to come across anything that I have had to do on a PC (or in VMWare) in the eight months since I "went Mac" full-time. Ever since the Intel switch, the software argument is really, really weak, enterprise or not.
2. Vista is safer
Yeah, OK. Keep telling yourself that. I mean, I'm not going to be one of those people that claims that the Mac is more secure than it really is -- like all Operating Systems, it has its vulnerabilities -- but come on! The only argument Gralla can even make is to pull a quote from some guy saying the code from Vista looks better than the Code from OS X 10.4. Yeah, I would hope an OS shipped in 2007 had better built-in security than one that shipped in 2005...
Compare Vista to OS X 10.5, then get back to us. I see the trends in safeguarding computers becoming less and less OS dependent and more and more consumer focussed. Getting people to willingly install scripts or programs that can put information at risk is something that is not an OS-specific flaw -- it's a human flaw. I will say that Mac users need to be educated about what to trust and what not to trust, the same way Windows users have been conditioned for years -- but as far as what OS is more "secure" -- the BSD base of OS X has certainly proved itself over the years and to say otherwise is just a staggering example of either stupidity or arrogance.
3. It's the money, stupid
Oh, right, right -- the whole "Macs cost too much" argument. Granted, we Mac users pay a premium for our shiny white Apple logo. I'll be the first to admit I paid the Black Tax to get my BlackBook. However, to pretend like those options and premiums don't exist for PC users are laughable. First, let's talk about extra software that has to be purchased off the bat -- let's just say $150, and that's a low figure (I used to sell computer systems as well as repair them, I'm well versed in the mark-up add-on strategy that you will see with ANY $400 computer) -- oh, and would you like to get all the crapware off your system? Sure, that'll be another $29.99 if you do it in-store, or $50 if you pay Sony to do it (and VAIO charges the exact same premium that Apple does for laptops and desktops -- the only reason my last VAIO wasn't a less expensive PowerBook was because I needed Windows at the time and it as pre-Intel).
Let's also look at how much you can spend getting stuff to actually work. My mom has a very, very nice HP wireless printer. The thing was a PITA to set-up (though that was better than the first model she got -- that one is sitting in a box in my father's office because I have serious nightmares about configuring it, because doing it the first time was such a disaster that even the highest-level HP tech I got on the phone with admitted to me that it scared him too) and I have to reconfigure it every time Windows delivers and update and that breaks something in the firewall with the wireless printer. My MacBook connected to it instantly on the network, installed the necessary drivers, less the software cruft and was printing in minutes. Same hardware. Different results.
Also keep in mind that the vast majority of computer repairs are software, not hardware related. If the software you have works better, runs more smoothly, is more stable -- the chances that you have to call someone like me to visit your house (or bring it into a shop) and pay $60 an hour for diagnosis and repair are greatly, greatly depreciated.
When I budgeted for my current computer, I still wasn't 100% sure I was going Mac -- it was certainly leaning that way, but I wasn't sure. At the time I configured my laptop, it was the same price as an identically configured Lenovo, with the same discounts applied. And adding RAM or a larger hard drive is no more expensive for the Mac than for a PC. I could have had a much cheaper laptop -- but that was never a consideration even if the Mac question wasn't part of the equation. For many consumers, they want something that will last more than a year. For a one-year purchase, a $600 PC is fine -- but if you want to keep something around for a while, the price point is going to be almost exactly the same Windows or Mac.
4. The Mac is closed; Vista is open
Continuing in the same vein as the above argument, Gralla argues that you can't build your own Mac, like you can with a PC. Again, this is true -- and for certain sectors, this is a definite detriment. However, as someone who used to always build my own computers (save laptops), I have come around to enjoying not building my own machine from scratch. Don't get me wrong, for certain projects it is a TON of fun -- and I learned more about computers and software and hardware by building and taking apart my own machines than almost anything else; having said that, the main reason lots of people build their own computers is because they want them to work reliably. The components used in many big-name systems are awful and often not up to spec. You don't end up saving any more building your own dream system than if you had it configured some place else.
With Apple, the components verifiably work with the OS and the software. That's pretty huge -- especially since Vista is still a dog for DIYers wanting to configure their own machine. Oh, and let's talk about price again -- price out all the parts for building your own entry-level MacPro. You will end up encroaching on $2700 US, and you'll have to deal with getting everything to work with Vista. Or you could get a MacPro, that is upgradable, is configurable, and know that it will work with OS X beautifully and also work with Vista or XP or any flavor of Linux you want to try.
In terms of actual open/closed software, both Microsoft and Apple speak out both sides of their mouths. But Darwin, WebKit, Bonjour are just some of the Open Source projects that Apple has either developed or greatly contributes to. Windows? Yeah, not so much.
Plus, the MacMini and iPhone communities are both great examples of the level of creativity and configurability that exists in the Mac community. If you are building your own computer, you aren't looking for official support anyway -- voiding the warranty is part of the fun. You can tweak out your iMac or you MacBook in amazing ways. Overclocking is so 2003 anyway.
5. Two words -- Steve Jobs
Two words: Steve Ballmer.
I mean, how can you even respond to that. Bill Gates is my personal hero -- but every significant figure in the computer industry has some latent (or not so latent) tendencies to go for the jugular. That's business. Using that as a reason Vista is better than OS X is just as sad as writing the article in the first place.

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 6)
Mark said 5:08PM on 4-09-2008
TUAW started a s a fine mac blog but now it's like being on Engadget...!!!
Seriously, what happened to you guys?
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Moburkhardt said 6:07AM on 4-10-2008
they are both owned by aol
Simon Arch said 12:27AM on 4-10-2008
I blame the trolls.
Berb said 5:09PM on 4-09-2008
You have made some very valid points but to be honest these kind of comparisons really make me angry.
I was a Windows user for many years until I converted to a Macbook Pro two years ago. I see me having the best of both worlds. I use Parallels for my Windows development and the Mac for all my web development.
People who pontificate about why Vista is better than OS/X and why OS/X is better than Vista should speak to people who actually use both OS's on a daily basis.
So there!
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Christina Warren said 5:56PM on 4-09-2008
Berb,
I totally agree and honestly almost never even entertain these kind of arguments -- today I just couldn't resist, not because I think Mac is always better (it isn't), but because so much of it struck me as just WRONG.
There are many, many valid reasons to make Windows (Vista or XP or Windows 7 or whatever) a primary computing platform.
Le Son said 12:03PM on 4-10-2008
Personally, these kind of arguments is quite entertaining to me.
You'll find stubborn people saying stupid things which make everybody laugh (at them, not with them :P).
You'll also find people who is not that stubborn, but still only stay in one side of the world. They don't say stupid things, and that's boring :)
Lastly, there are experienced people who used many OSes. They talk like a pro, act like a pro, and they are a pro. Only words they say are meaningful, and those words might be useful as well.
The stubborn ones are the best, they talk like a pig :@)
So, who are you?
P.S. Where could you find stubborn people like that? YouTube - perfect example!
Eli said 5:11PM on 4-09-2008
A nice response, but I disagree with you on the amount of software and the pricing.
Yes, there is more quality software available for Windows than for the Mac, regardless of Mac software's average quality being better than Windows'.
On the pricing... No. Macs are more expensive, it's a fact. Your arguments against that don't really stand. You haven't noted all the equivalent costs involved in owning a Mac.
Of course, this is TUAW, so your effort to rebut is quite at home!
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Jake Coventry said 5:14PM on 4-09-2008
Yes, but everyone has neglected to mention resale value. I just sold an old powerbook I have owned for 4 years on ebay for £350... Thats around 30% of it's original cost... try doing that with a 4 year old Windows Laptop...
Eli said 5:16PM on 4-09-2008
A 4-year old Windows laptop might not sell for 30% of it's original value, but it could, and it wouldn't for less than 20%.
eugene said 5:25PM on 4-09-2008
Well you could buy a used, 4 year old apple laptop for 700 bucks, or you could buy a brand new vista capable laptop for the same amount of money.
Joshua Ochs said 5:39PM on 4-09-2008
I agree completely with the software angle above. For any given task, you'll find 20 different things on Windows - most cost $40 (for a trivial task), don't work well, or died of neglect ages ago. On the Mac, one quick browse of MacUpdate will generally yield maybe half a dozen apps - usually free, donationware, or cheap (
Bill Grant said 8:58AM on 4-17-2008
On your point about price being more expensive than Windows equivalents, I think what's often overlooked is the total cost of ownership. That cost needs to be pro-rated.
In addition my time is worth something. As a recent convert from Windows I've found the system to be considerably more stable... That has a value to me.
surfin10 said 6:08PM on 4-09-2008
Actually you are both wrong and right about the price of Macs. I do the bulk of the equipment specifications for purchasing where I work and regularly price check Mac and PCs because we use OS X, XP, Vista, and Ubuntu Linux (we develop software for all these platforms and provide database services).
To-date, I consistently find that the Mac Pro is cheaper than any equivalent equipped PC using name-brand components. As far as iMacs and MacBook/MacBook Pro laptops go, it varies. Depending on market trends, Macs are cheaper while other times PC laptops are cheaper.
The primary reason we have been switching to all Mac laptops is because it saves us money in the long run by being able to run Windows XP/Vista in VMWare Fusion instead of having to own a separate PC laptop. Also, all the people I know that use Macs tend to own and use them over a longer life-span than their PCs which further reduces the total cost of ownership. I have one Mac that I use daily which is almost 5 years old now. I've never gotten that kind of life out of a PC.
The one area where Macs certainly cannot compete is the budget market when the user only desires a life-span of 1 to 2 years (which I think is a much bigger market than Apple is willing to admit - too bad for Apple). Case in point, we have a training lab of laptops and we do not want to make it last 3 or more years. They get beat-up pretty bad from being packed and unpacked. This is a need that Apple simply does not meet.
Also, I don't know about other shops, but our technical support issues have dropped significantly for the users that have made the switch. For those that have to stay in the Windows side, the support has still gone down if they are able to work in WMWare Fusion, but I have seen no drop in support for those that have to be in Windows on a PC. I hear the same from people all over that switch from PC to Mac. They just don't have near the number of problems and feel more confident in their Macs than they did with a PC.
Andrew Davis said 6:15PM on 4-09-2008
Apple makes a better product. period. Compare any Mac to any Dell with similar specs, they're both in the same price range.
BJ said 6:24PM on 4-09-2008
I have to say that Macs are pricey, but so are good windows machines. The biggest difference between Macs and PC, in price, is the selection of quality. You can buy a BRAND NEW PC with Vista that doesn't even run properly. I know this because I am the guy everyone calls when they get their new machine and it doesn't run lightning fast. Then I have to spend over an hour explaining to them that a sub-$1000 laptop is not going to perform as well as their 2yr old WinXP PC did because of the new Vista requirements. I have yet to get a call from any of my family or friends asking why their new Mac is running slow. There is a good reason for this, it doesn't.
So, in the end computers are expensive, both Macs and PCs. The shiny Apple gets flack for not offering a cheap alternative, and in return they deliver quality. I can't argue with that.
As for used computer prices... There again it is solely based on the initial quality of the unit. I have sold many used PCs and Macs, lower spec yields a lower price.
Welly said 6:56PM on 4-09-2008
There might be more software for Windows but we can run Windows.
Johnny Thrash said 7:33PM on 4-09-2008
If would help if people actually did some investigation prior to posting. Something I have done.
Macs are not more expensive than PCs if you use the same top of the line name brand components that Apple uses when you try to create your PC products.
I bought my first Mac 2 years ago and totally switched when Vista came out. There is no way I will ever use Vista or any of Microsoft's resulting products.
All the applications I've used on the Mac are the same products or better than those I used on Windows for 15 years. Adobe, Quark, Firefox, Blizzard Entertainment... what more do you need?
FTP clients, music editors, email application... I only miss 2 applications from Windows and those are Ultraedit and SecureCRT. Every other product I've used on the Mac is far superior and just plain cooler than Windows products.
And now that IDM is making an Ultraedit for the Mac... I could not be happier.
Macs rule. Macs pwn. Buh bye Windows... it was nice... quitting you.
David said 8:51PM on 4-09-2008
yes they r more expensive but they last
i had a very nice brand new dell desktop
it lasted i wanna say 4 months but i would b telling a huge lie
ive had my mac almost a year not a popup not a virus
hell i havent needed to restore it
AND THATS SAYING SOMETHING
yes they r more expensive but if ur thinking long term
pg5of16 said 10:42PM on 4-09-2008
While I agree that OSX has software for pretty much anything you can do on a Windows machine, what I think you do miss is that for every application on OSX, there will be three or four well maintained and usable Windows applications. This lets you choose the application that you like best. I must have demoed a dozen Media Converters before I found one that converted fast, well, and easily. I don't think I would have that kind of selection on OSX.
Tom said 6:25AM on 4-10-2008
Actually, Christina's right. When I priced my iMac, I compared it to a Dell with exactly the same spec. Mac came out cheaper, and that was before all the software was taken into account. That the 'Macs are more expensive' myth persists, saddens me.