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Psystar: What's the French Word for Lawsuit?

Yesterday, Mike posted about the new commercial hackintosh from Psystar. Many of our readers noted that, wow, that was a lawsuit waiting to happen -- or as Fake Steve put it, Psystar is French for "We're about to go out of business". Update 11 am Tuesday: InformationWeek is reporting that Psystar believes that Apple's EULA is anticompetitive and violates US monopoly laws. Interesting.

Here are a few of the high points that TUAW is aware of:

The Mac name Using "Mac" in the product name was probably a bad idea. Psystar just re-named the platform to "Open Computer" instead.

Pre-installing Leopard It would seem that installing Leopard on non-Apple hardware is a violation of Apple's EULA. Virtualization vendors such as Parallels and VMware have already acknowledged this constraint in their product development; otherwise, both would offer VMs capable of running Leopard on any PC and not just on Mac OS X Server.

Unlicensed PC_EFI It looks like Psystar is using an EFI bootloader without properly acknowledging the actual author or receiving permission to distribute the software.

If you haven't yet checked out the discussion thread on Digg, I encourage you to do so. It's especially useful with its discussions about hardware limitations and hackintoshes.



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@kevin,

One word was missing from my post for clarification (headless)... no exxageration needed.. Desktop in my head is a headless box, i.e. Mac mini & Mac Pro.. that's the price I was quoting for. I'm not interested in an all-in-one "Desktop"..

Thanks for playing...

April 25 2008 at 9:55 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
wonkydonky.net

I've studied the Franch language since I was three, and the word you are looking fore eez: LeFukt.

Santé, Mes Amis!

April 25 2008 at 2:32 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Chris Johnson

The world's tiniest violin is playing for Apple right now.

I like their software and their hardware but I could care less about what they think I should do with that hardware or software after I buy it.

April 16 2008 at 8:25 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tristan

The main problem really is... Once Apple start allowing other companies to use their OS, Apple loose control... The reason things work so well with Apple is they have tight control over everything...

When you start making YumCha machines (a little bit of everything) you start relying on 3rd party vendors to make sure their drivers are compatible... and this JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

Can you imagine getting calls saying that Processor XYZ isn't working with Motherboard ABC and Graphic Card DEF? At the moment, Apple knows that their machines work, if a software reinstall doesn't fix it, then the machine must be faulty!

I am glad Apple remains closed... it means things just work! And if it means I pay a premium, then so be it!

April 15 2008 at 11:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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steve

Yes apple can argue that being closed ideally benefits compatibility. but i a clean install of leopard on my mac suggested otherwise. my airport card was useless until i updated to 10.5.2. not exactly confidence inspiring, especially from the company that is pushing for wireless everything with the air. thus the great divide between 'ideally' and 'reality'

April 16 2008 at 11:54 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JumBoBoB

Funny how someone comes out with an affordable piece of hardware that will run Mac OSX and you report on all the dirt. Good job as usual Erica. Apple doesn't want to compete in the budget Mac Market so you think they will trample the competition with lawsuits. Sounds fair.

It all comes down to drinkin' koolaid®.

Don't you love that Apple OS goodness enough to want everyone to share it? Or are you a hardcore Koolaid® drinker that would rather not dirty your Koolaid® drinkin' glass with the hands of the less fortunate who can't afford a $3k Mac Pro or even a $1200 iMac?

Since we're on the subject of the French I guess we can write this post up as Erica's "Let them eat cake (and use Windows)" post.

April 15 2008 at 10:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
james

alright, hysterical banter about xenophobia aside... let's let the author's silly use of idioms slide. there are better points in the article to discuss.

first off, am i alone in being generally unmoved by ELUAs? like... it's not a magic spell. it's not even a law (sorry, kids, it's not). it's certainly not a commandment. ultimately, fine... don't steal. i accept that. we all get that. fair enough. but don't load it on other machines? yeah, great. that's as abstracted as don't use the OS in a strawberry patch. ultimately, it's whatever and then some. like, the first thing my friend said when he saw the psystar move was to say "yup. illegal." really? is it? so what. aren't there better implications to talk about... even if psystar is scratching at those implications with a feint.

also, i'm not 100% sure that psystar is selling the OS preinstalled, per se. they've kind of found some tricky wording on their page. they seem to be wording it as if they're selling the OS as separate product that they'd deliver to you anyways - interestingly keeping the markup on the OS so they're not undercutting apple which keeps them legit. and if you buy that separate product they'll install it for you. so it's an optional purchase that they'll install for you as a courtesy. it's not a free assumed running OS that automatically comes with the machine, it's a courtesy service of a friend - a thank you, if you will. i think those might be two different senses of what preinstall is. i'm not really sure though, and would love to hear more especially from attys - not apple attys.

this whole sale of a non-apple OS machine might indeed be useless. i don't know if a hackintosh can practically go anywhere at this point. what interests me though is what it might do to the marketplace if it ever is viable. beyond the obvious shock and awe that psystar is going for, there is a nifty question. if, and this is a big if, a successfully update-able OSX were running on non-apple party machines, what would they really be able to do to stop it? especially if people sell the machines with no installing at all, just billed as "open"... i have a feeling it would only be good for apple to have to deal with that reality. sure, publicly they'd have to go against it. but i think it's the people who play frankenstein with various technologies who are more likely to find the awesome tricks and giggles some day, and who make development as a whole progress.

April 15 2008 at 3:11 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Gerald

You are forgetting that you do not buy software, you license it, and as such, you are bound to the licensing agreement.

April 16 2008 at 12:05 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
james

i'm not forgetting that. it's just another of the mincing legalities. at the end of the day, in all real-world terms, i'm buying it, and i'll use it in a strawberry patch as much as i want. i'm unmoved by this "license" idea, or much else that has to do with ELUAs.

April 16 2008 at 2:39 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tendo

you side with apple on this. Which only really violates the EULA... but the majority of your recent entertaining news in based on the iPhone dev scene. Which completely violates the EULA. tisk tisk.

April 15 2008 at 3:05 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JaXX

Pystar is no French word at all... You just can't mix up things like that...
Plenty of light-headed ppl are gonna think that the Psystar case is related in some way to french people... And besides having a crappy government, there's nothing in common (not sure this has neither but well)

(PS: looks like mypcproblems.info has ripped your article off btw, and that Psyisses me off :-) )

April 15 2008 at 12:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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CZ

I'm starting to see why the English don't like the French; Are you ALL this humorless and prone to missing the point? Do you always sit around

This was not an insulting headline. I'm sorry your grasp of American English is so tenuous, but really, trust us-- This is not an attack on France.

Let me explain one more time for you:

The actual language chosen in the sentence-- in this case French-- is irrelevant. The POINT was that "psystar" is a non-word in the first place. It's a compound word made up from a misused prefix ("psy") and a common word ("star") in order to sound "techie" or something. The fact that it's not a real word makes it ripe for the joke that it must be a word in a foreign language.

So when a bad choice is made on their part, the joke is made that their nonsense word name must actually mean "We're about to go out of business" in a foreign language (that is: Foreign to the country of its origin).

The specific foreign language was not important. It was not chosen for any cultural significance other than the fact that Americans tend to use "French" as a place-holder for the idea of a word being "foreign" -- Not in a positive or negative sense. Just in a "not our language" sense.

Jeez. Do you think we'd have seen as much angsty complaining if he had said "Spanish" or "Esperanto"???

Seriously, this complaining does NOT reflect well on the French people... But then I've been told by many a Canadian that the French Canadians seem to always have a stick up their ass, and perhaps I shouldn't have passed it off as an exaggeration.

By the way, French-speakers, "stick up the ass" is an English phrase which means "tendency to be uptight and humorless." It does not mean you have an actual stick up your ass.

After all this, I thought you might need that explained.

April 15 2008 at 2:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CZ

Cut off somehow.

"Do you always sit around"
was supposed to be:

Do you always sit around discussing the jokes' merits, or do you just laugh and go with it like the rest of the world?

Seriously. The English probably don't like you because you never laugh at their jokes. The English can make fun of themselves, but it seems like the French cannot stand a joke at their expense.

And for the record, I love the French! Great kissers. Good food.


Oh, and Psystar is pretty much screwed.

April 15 2008 at 2:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
alakazarm

Although I agree with the general feeling, I am shocked by that "French". This is close to xenophobia and I don't understand why you Erica, copy that on TUAW.
And speaking of hidden meanings, Apple could easily be described as the american-english word for greate products but also "pointless cats and dogs game with unlockers", "lame restrictions on AppStore's contents", "ridiculous EULAs that tie OS and hardware" and of course crazy prices. And I'm not forgetting about "stooopid lawsuit against the Big Apple logo". See, nothing french here...

April 15 2008 at 11:33 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Michael

"Although I agree with the general feeling, I am shocked by that "French". This is close to xenophobia ..."

Au contraire, it's a kind of compliment. It's just another way of saying "Psystar in _another language_ must mean 'We're about to go out of business'." And French is always the first language other than their own to come to mind to most English-speaking people. That's all there is to it.

April 15 2008 at 2:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tv

Im not all about the hackintosh, but I can't get with the Mac pricing:

$2499 for a Desktop (or $599, really not a choice) ) (kinda high, so I'll keep waiting for features that match that price (what those are , i don't know)

$2499 for a laptop w/a 17in monitor.. this I can't understand ever..

And I'm not here to "compare" prices with a PC, cause nothing compares to a Mac period..

April 15 2008 at 9:53 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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kevin

no, 2499 for the 24" monitor. the 20" starts at 1199. don't exaggerate.

April 25 2008 at 8:12 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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