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TUAW hands on with CrossOver Games


We posted about the release of CrossOver Games a little while ago -- it's a version of Codeweavers' Windows virtualization software that allows Windows games to be played on OS X and Linux. I grabbed a copy of the software for TUAW, and spent an afternoon running it through its paces.

You can check out the hands-on after the break -- after installing CrossOver Games, I first tried to load up Guild Wars using their installer's package interface, and was able to get it working pretty well. I then tried one of my favorite games, Civilization 4, and unfortunately, that one didn't turn out quite so well. And just for kicks, I also gave F.E.A.R. a shot -- it's not on CrossOver's compatibility list at all, but I've had a copy sitting around for a while that I haven't played yet, so I let the virtualization app take a crack at getting it working.

The hands-on is in this simple and easy-to-use (which is more than I can say about CrossOver Games) gallery format -- just click the picture furthest to the left down there and begin our journey into the exciting world of virtualization and game installation. I can tell you're excited already.



Update: Arjun found the problem with Civ in the comments; apparently only the Steam version is compatible. Which vibes with the rest of what I found: if you want to play any of the Steam or built-in games with CrossOver, they'll likely work just fine. But if you want to install another game from a CD (especially unsupported games), you're out of luck.

We posted about the release of CrossOver Games a little while ago -- it's a version of Codeweavers' Windows virtualization software that...
 

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Tim

Mike!

What about your Portal wallpaper? Where is that one from? It is awesome.

May 05 2008 at 10:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Duncan

I wonder if Civ IV (non-STEAM version) would run with this on a different Mac. I know that if you were to use BootCamp, the game would not run on the Mac Mini because the GMA950 is not one of the few integrated graphics chipsets that the game is compatible with.

On an unrelated note, I hate the Mac port of Civ IV. I'm fairly certain it is just running on an emulation layer. On my MBP, it runs terribly at the lowest settings. If I boot my machine into XP, I can max out the game's settings and never have even a little slowdown. So, if I choose the Mac version of the game over the Windows version, I pay more money and get significantly worse performance.

April 26 2008 at 5:01 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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squirgle

Not sure where you are getting your info, but Civ IV runs perfectly on my MacBook under Boot Camp with a GMA950. I can't max out the graphics, but it runs respectably at 1280x800 without any kind of slowdown.

May 11 2008 at 10:53 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JedixJarf

Been running Counter strike source for a couple days now, works great.

April 19 2008 at 3:57 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Richard Hallas

It's well worth trying the CrossOver Games demo with the game you want to run before buying it; you have a week's free use in demo mode in which to do this. Whether a game will work or not is entirely down to the game, and isn't as simple as saying "if it's supported it'll work, and if it isn't, it won't."

The game I personally wanted to run was Heroes of Might and Magic III Complete (as the Mac version is Classic-only and hence no longer runs under Intel or even PowerPC-Leopard).

And I can confirm that HoMM3 works *perfectly* under CrossOver Games. Really well, in fact. (It didn't work well under CrossOver 6, but under Games it's great.) And, though I haven't tried them yet, I'm certain that other games in the Heroes series (Heroes Chronicles, Heroes IV, Heroes II etc.) will also work, because they /almost/ work well under CrossOver 6, and CrossOver Games entirely fixed the problems they exhibit with Heroes III. Actually, there's a very minor problem with Heroes III in terms of switching between windowed and full-screen modes, but if you're prepared to play in one or the other and not switch, that's the only fault at present.

Anyway, that was the clincher for me. Being able to run Heroes III made CrossOver Games well worth buying.

April 19 2008 at 6:17 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ikir

Natural Selection, Day Of Defeat and other popular Steam games runs very good.

April 18 2008 at 1:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
icepulse

Thanks for clarifying.

However, based on what I'm hearing about performance, I don't se how this will ever be an acceptable replacement for running these apps natively (on a Mac) through the use of Boot Camp.

Alex, do you see this type of application ever running processor / memory-intensive Windows software @ an acceptable speed?

April 18 2008 at 8:10 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Alex Oughton

In theory, if WINE became perfect overnight, it's performance would far outstrip a virtual machine for most tasks.

However, the real issue with CrossOver Games is the lack of DirectX on Mac OS X. It's having to translate the DirectX into a form OS X can use (OpenGL, i imagine), and that is where the massive performance overhead is for gaming.

And that will always be the case. For this to reach the performance level of Boot Camp, we'd need to see native support for DirectX in OS X. Not happening.

April 18 2008 at 11:38 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alex Oughton

@icepulse

It's not an emulator because emulators create a virtual machine which behaves like a completely separate computer running a completely separate OS. WINE, and its derivatives provide an implementation of the WIN32 API to allow WIN32 apps to run directly on the OS. There's no second OS and no second (virtual) machine.

Additionally, it should be noted that WINE stands for "WINE Is Not An Emulator".

April 18 2008 at 6:36 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alex Oughton

Would people please stop referring to this as a virtualization app? It isn't. At all. As Dale said above, this is based on WINE which again is not a virtualization app or an emulator or whatever other incorrect label you want to give it. It's a set of libraries and other binaries intended to provide the right environment for Win32 binaries to run on other platforms, in this case Mac OS X.

April 18 2008 at 12:25 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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icepulse

Please explain specifically how it is NOT an emulator.

My understanding is that if its running UNDER OSX, its an emulator; Its relying on code that runs under OSX to run Windows or Win Apps.

Thanks.



April 18 2008 at 6:24 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
icepulse

I don't get it...

Why not just run BootCamp? I run Oblivion, DX2, HOMM5, Fallout: Tactics, Far Cry, BioShock, Silent Storm and more, without a hitch. Simple as copping a new copy of XP Pro on Ebay and loading up on cheap-ass PC games from last year!

April 17 2008 at 9:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Arjun

Well, I think I found the Civ4 problem. From their website:

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/group/?app_id=1728

"Steam version supported in CrossOver only. Other versions of this game are unsupported at this time."

April 17 2008 at 1:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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