Microsoft road show for Office 2008 coming to town

I left a comment on Microsoft's MBU web page saying if VBA wasn't supported, I wasn't buying. It's not, I haven't. I have been a regular contributer to Microsoft's profits since Office 4 (yes word 6 - I even forgave them for that). I'm several thousand kms from any of the venues mentioned so if anyone can pass on these comments I would be obliged.

"No offense Stephen, but if you haven't noticed any bugs, then you would be fine with TextEdit."

Offense taken. Your points are valid, but oh man - the snarkiness, get over yourself. My uses of Word are pretty simple, so I don't have occasion to come across as many features as you do and perhaps as many bugs. I also use Excel for a simple worksheet to balance my (all too) small personal budget and it works without a hitch. I've also taken to using Entourage for my personal e-mail account, and while I prefer the interface of Apple Mail and Apple Address Book, I cannot think of a single time the program crashed or a single time the program did not do something I told it to.

I'm not trying to take away from some of the specific complaints people have been raising about the program, but to call it the worst software ever or to say it simply doesn't work is an exaggeration.

I don't seem to be able to register. Anyone have an invitation code?

Ok ok ok...I'll be the lonely Office '08 defender. It's slow to load on my G4 mini, but seems to work OK once you get it going. I'm not noticing any bugs since the latest software update, and overall I think the UI changes from '04 are subtle but make a pleasant difference. Yeah, I know MS Office is extremely uncool in tech-enthusiast circles. It's not as intuitive as other, less expensive office suites, but if you take the time to learn it, it can really pay off. Also, I've had bad luck in the past trying to open Word documents in Pages, NeoOffice etc. when that document includes embedded tables or other complex formatting.

My one complaint is that tasks don't sync with exchange.

I'll chime in on the complaints of slowness. We upgraded our office of Intel Macs to '08 because of the performance of Office '04 via Rosetta, and boy were we wrong. At least 30 seconds to load any app, and then the first minute of using it is riddled with spinning balls and waiting for text entry to catch up with my keystrokes. I abandoned using Word as a notepad because I kept forgetting my thoughts by the time it fully loaded.

I expected there to be a software update soon after release to fix such a glaring problem, but nothing! Who do we complain to?

Office 2008 is incredibly slow. It takes me 27 seconds to open Word, compared with 6 to open Pages '08 - it takes Word longer than that just to show the splash screen.

I like Pages better now, and I think Numbers & Keynote are brilliant. Sure, they don't have every Office feature, but give them 2 or 3 more versions and I can see Office being pretty much redundant.

@Scott: Word takes about 25 seconds to load the first time on my Mac Mini. After that, it takes under 10 seconds (and yes, I am quitting not just closing).

I agree with most of the commenters though; once you get used to it the 2007 UI in Windows is really nice. Its a shame they couldn't bring that over to the Mac. I mananged to get 2008 for Mac through the Home Use Program at work so I got it essentially for free but for once I actually prefer the Windows version.

The keyboard shortcuts seem to be totally different in Excel; as I've been using Excel on an almost daily basis for the last ten years that's really throwing me.

The styles in Word 2007 on Windows are almost at the point where they are so easy to use they are actually useable for the first time; again it was a real shame to see on the Mac that they still have the old style "list" of styles, with no right click option to add the current selection as a style easily.

I think Office is so important to Microsoft's hold on the corporate desktop now, there is no way they are giving the same program to Mac users. As long as the have an OS to sell, don't expect a fully compatible Mac Office.

@Scott: Word takes about 25 seconds to load the first time on my Mac Mini. After that, it takes under 10 seconds (and yes, I am quitting not just closing).

I agree with most of the commenters though; once you get used to it the 2007 UI in Windows is really nice. Its a shame they couldn't bring that over to the Mac. I mananged to get 2008 for Mac through the Home Use Program at work so I got it essentially for free but for once I actually prefer the Windows version.

The keyboard shortcuts seem to be totally different in Excel; as I've been using Excel on an almost daily basis for the last ten years that's really throwing me.

The styles in Word 2007 on Windows are almost at the point where they are so easy to use they are actually useable for the first time; again it was a real shame to see on the Mac that they still have the old style "list" of styles, with no right click option to add the current selection as a style easily.

I think Office is so important to Microsoft's hold on the corporate desktop now, there is no way they are giving the same program to Mac users. As long as the have an OS to sell, don't expect a fully compatible Mac Office.

I think previous posters are being nice. Office 2008 just.doesn't.work. - I'd pay extra for Office 2004. It's been helpful motivation to use iWork when I can. While the Microhoo! deal collapse might have been a debacle for yahoo shareholders, for yahoo customers; it's a dodged bullet. Anyone really think that the integration wouldn't have gotten screwed up by Microsoft?