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Espresso testers selected, beta coming late November
If you've been salivating for a shot of Espresso, the upcoming integrated web development environment for Mac OS X, you'll have to wait just a little bit longer.
An email sent this morning by the developer, MacRabbit's Jan Van Boghout, confirmed the status of those accepted into the beta program, but he also indicated that the top priority was to give plug-in developers working with the Sugar framework "a solid SDK to start with." Van Boghout expects that the company will release a beta in late November.
Espresso, which stares Coda straight in the eye and says, "Yeah, I'm lookin' at you," is from the same people who make CSSEdit, and was announced in mid-September.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
pacheco said 12:48PM on 10-07-2008
Hmm, the way I read it, I thought they were saying the beta would get going in the next few weeks so the finished app could be released in late November. Maybe that's not nearly as reasonable.
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Eric said 10:29AM on 10-08-2008
That's how I read it, too. "We hope to get going in the next few weeks to release late November."
yourdigitalink said 12:49PM on 10-07-2008
Yes, got my confirmation this morning.
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Jash Sayani said 5:10AM on 10-08-2008
Me too... Waiting to try it out !!
Nick said 1:21PM on 10-07-2008
Yeah, I got my confirmation email this morning too. I was hoping to get my hands on it sooner, because my Coda trial just ran out and I wanted to do a personal head-to-head to see which I'd purchase.
Guess I'll just have to hold off to make the decision.
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Chase said 3:01PM on 10-07-2008
I got my confirmation as well. I am pretty excited to test this baby out. Hopefully it will do everything I need it to.
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Joseph said 1:59PM on 10-07-2008
I really hope they don't target Coda too squarely. I want a "pro" version of Coda. Something you can use for real web apps, and not just web sites. :-)
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Brandon Martinez said 2:00PM on 10-07-2008
Got my invite! Woot!
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Jakob Metzger said 2:08PM on 10-07-2008
It looks like a clone of Coda with a lot less features. I know its in beta and that will change but right now I dont see very many impressing extras in this app. Coda does everything efficiently enough already. How streamlined is web programming got to be?
But always glad to see new choices, I will be checking this out once it has it's first stable release.
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mare said 2:13PM on 10-07-2008
Can you fix his name in above article?
It is Jan van Boghout and not Jan Von Boghout. Using the Von makes him German and capitalising makes him American. And both is wrong since he resides in Belgium.
So 'van' and not 'Von'. Thank you
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Robert Palmer said 2:25PM on 10-07-2008
I've changed it to "Jan Van Boghout" to match his email. I apologize for inadvertently changing his nationality, though I was entirely unaware I had this power.
Thanks for catching this.
Niklas Schröder said 2:28PM on 10-07-2008
Got my acceptance letter this morning too. Can't wait for November!
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Chris Newton said 2:28PM on 10-07-2008
The thing that this SHOULD get right is the CSS part, which is the part for me that Coda was a total failure at. I'd rather write pure CSS than use Coda's CSS editing window, so I eventually tossed it.
I'm also hoping to see support for Textmate bundles and color packages, that type of thing. I've really grown to use a lot of the features textmate has, but It'd still be nice to have an integrated set of key commands for web development rather than piles of windows strewn about the place.
Beyond that... I don't know. We'll see how it pans out in November when they MIGHT send a copy.
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Think Adrian said 2:52PM on 10-07-2008
I'm in!
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Dave B said 3:27PM on 10-07-2008
In as well, looking forward to it as I have used CSSedit extensively on all my projects from work to freelance the last couple years. Love it, tried Code for a lil while and wasn't impressed. The Textmate/CSSedit combo works quite well, perhaps Espresso will streamline this and improve some of the small gripes I have with CSSedit.
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Kevlar said 3:52PM on 10-07-2008
Got my invite!
As someone who codes almost exclusively using TextMate, and has never tried Coda, or CSSEdit, I'd love to see how this streamlines my workflow. As Chris Newton said, I'd rather write pure code CSS or otherwise, and GUI editors such as Coda and CSSEdit never really appealed to me.
Espresso seems like it is a bit more flexible.
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Dave B said 4:04PM on 10-07-2008
Ah you see, but if you're a designer like me coding cleanly (by typing, not WYSIWYG) but wanting to adjust things visually like Photoshop, CSSedit is very appealing. It also allows you to see where you can consolidate code and remove redundancies when you're constantly looking at the live page as you type.
It's also why 90% of the work I see from engineers (not a generalization, more specific to work) doesn't match the endless specs us designers do, and why I do a lot more CSS at work to reduce QA time. Sometimes combining these 2 processes (coding vs. visual) works to your advantage.
spyker said 4:15PM on 10-07-2008
I'm in.
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James said 7:41PM on 10-07-2008
Guess will add my name to the "I'm in" list. Can't wait for this and look forward to developing some "Sugars".
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panicgirl said 3:10AM on 10-08-2008
I'm selected too! I would definitely gonna buy this, and give them lots of feedback!
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