New Cinema Displays finally arrive with iSight cameras, MagSafe connectors

Looking long and hard at this monitor im going to have to say if there was a "new mini" it would work perfectly with this thing. Camera built in, powered by magsafe power very little cabling needed id have to say looks like a new mini on its way to work with this monitor.

@Michael: It's not about that, actually. Many here who are Mac Pro users are irritated to finally see a new display offered by Apple AFTER MORE THAN FOUR YEARS, and seeing that it doesn't work on their $3000+ computers, myself included. Mac Pro users and Mac Mini users are the only Apple users who have to purchase a display with their computers, and I'd be willing to bet when polled more people purchase an Apple Cinema Display to go with a desktop computer that needs an external display for human interfacing than for notebooks although the market for notebooks is growing fast; that's probably the reason why they've done this. They still offer the 20", 23", and the 30" displays, but while cream of the crop in June 2004 when they were first released they are overpriced and outclassed displays today.

When Apple introduced their first displays they used an entirely proprietary connector that didn't allow their most recently released PowerMacs to even use them. They didn't even release an adapter until a couple of years later, less than a year before they finally ditched the connector in favor of DVI-D. They let a third party company called Gefen to rape their users with a $300 adapter before finally releasing one of their own (of lesser, but adequate, quality) for a fraction of the price. Why should they repeat the same mistake again? The only saving grace is that they are switching to a standardized port, so developing an adapter wouldn't require a third party to reverse engineer a proprietary port to produce an adapter.

The new display has DisplayPort which is a leap beyond DVI in capability and a power connector to plug laptops into. Excellent. It's just that for anyone today to be able to use that display they'll at least have to spend $900 for a notebook before purchasing the display because absolutely none of their models released before yesterday contained the port. It is an absolutely amazing display. To not alienate its users and users that have been waiting quite a long while for a new display from Apple they need to either release a model with DVI, release an adapter for people to be able to use this thing, or provide an adapter with the display. They spend 4 years of R&D and all that effort to make the thing more environmentally friendly, but only an idiot with more money than he/she needs is going to buy a computer solely to be able to use that display.

Hell even an announcement about working on an adapter would work.

From the looks of it, the bottom of the screen is higher from the base than an iMac, which makes it look like you'd be able to place one of these next to a 24" iMac and have the screens level. I don't think it's because they're using the same stands either since the base looks slightly tapered to a thinner edge towards the front than an iMac. With any luck this means that non-notebook specific and/or other sized screens will be on their way at some point.

If memory serves, Jobs ruled out HDMI as not being suitable for powering their large displays, since their large displays don't support miniport and there's (currently) no adapter it implies there will be other screens coming out.

Wait, if say I get a new macbook and this, with a set of wireless apple keyboard and mouse, can i connect it all and CLOSE my macbook and put it next to/in front of the display and put the keyboard and mouse on the keyboard drawer of my desk and use it like a full desktop?

Today's announcements are just a sign that Apple has moved on from a company "for the rest of us" to one specializing in project for creative pros (those who stuck it out during the lean years) to a "brand" of cool toys for cool people. With the success of the iPod, Apple has moved more to this "brand" mentality.

We all know, most pros would not use the glossy display. Obviously, this product is not for you. We all know friends who will be blown away by how good "Transformers" looks on the their laptop or their new "green" display. This it for them.

We all know, pros tend to use Firewire for their drives and cameras. Obviously, this product is not for you. We all know a friends who need help plugging in their Casio camera or flash drive. This it for them.

Guess what? Apple is still a company for the "for the rest of us." Unfortunately, pros are not the "us" they are referring too.

its ugly though...
i really don't like the way the new laptops or this display look.

Sometime between now and November, they will have a DisplayPort -to- DVI+USB adapter, probably in the form of a white brick, for $99. When the original Cinema Displays that had the ADC connector came out, Apple sold a $99 ADC-to-DVI+USB box.

What today's announcements really mean is the informal death of FireWire. I knew once iPods were moved over to USB, that FireWire's consumer days were numbered.

Expect plenty of FireWire ExpressCard34 cards to appear in the future for what is now legacy hardware. Those with the FireWire800 ports can at least pick up the 800-to-400 adapter.

Damn... some people need to take major chill-pills. The displays are not out yet and a few days of dust settling needs to happen before jumping the gun.

You can still buy the old displays if you want.

Also remember... that a 24" is not a 24" in that all 24"s are the same. Why is Dells 30" 3008WFP priced at $1999 while their 30" 007WFP-HC is priced at $1399 - in fact why are they two. The point is that while you can get an ubber cheap 24" (or whatever size) it does not mean that it will give you the same experience as one of the better displays.

Typically (iMac 20" aside), Apple displays are of higher quality in the mass-pit-pack of displays.

Also keep in mind that Apple will ... Apple WILL support the new Display Port now that they have signed on board. Do you expect them to release the new notebooks without supporting it?

This is really no different then when Apple first opted to use USB in place of legacy connectors for keyboards and mice.

It just blows my mind that at one moment people will complain that Apple does not jump on the new technologies as soon as they are released, but when they do adopt a change they just bang them for it.

It's annoying that this isn't compatible out-of-the box, but at least it mentions a VESA kit! Is it the iMac or old cinema displays that couldn't do this?

I love this for a MacBook docking station. But it doesn't look like it will work well with any MacBook Pros that are out there today. Like mine! I'm sure there will be an adapter for those of us who bought their MacBook Pros before TODAY. I'll take an 18" (to reach the other side of the laptop) mini-dvi female to DVI male cable please. Just like Apple to get me a little excited, then leave me hanging. Thanks Steve!