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Talkcast tonight, 10 pm: the get-well card show
Last week's talkcast was a star-studded affair, with special guests Ged Maheux of Iconfactory and Rob & Josh from Welcome to Macintosh; everyone had a great time recalling the fun and excitement of Macworld Expo. You can download the show from Talkshoe or subscribe in iTunes.
Tonight, the show is back at 10 pm ET on Talkshoe; however, considering the big Apple news of the week, we're going to take up most of the show by playing back your audio get-well cards for Steve Jobs -- we got over 60 messages of support for Steve and I hope to play many of them tonight. Of course, we'll also make time for your live comments, questions and suggestions. If the audio playback and Talkshoe don't play well together, we'll move the show to Ustream or find another way to include your contributions.
To participate on TalkShoe, you can use the browser-only client, or you can also use the classic TalkShoe Pro Java client; however, for maximum fun, you should call in. For the web UI, just click the "TalkShoe Web" button on our profile page at 10 pm Sunday. To call in on regular phone or VOIP lines (take advantange of your free cellphone weekend minutes if you like): dial (724) 444-7444 and enter our talkcast ID, 45077 -- during the call, you can request to talk by keying in *-8. Talk with you then!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
David said 9:21PM on 1-18-2009
All this get well soon stuff is a little creepy. Why don't you folks leave the guy alone? I don't thing people understand what is going on. The guy is dying / he has months to live and wants to spent his final weeks at home with his family. The last thing he needs (or wants) is a bunch of kooks sending him get well soon soundbites.
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Chip Daiger said 9:16PM on 1-18-2009
Just an observation... this site is going downhill... fast... news is slow, slow, slow and just a rehash of other sites... Victor, better shape this up... I'm ready to delete the bookmark...
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Michael Rose said 9:29PM on 1-18-2009
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Chip, and thanks for the feedback.
Chip Daiger said 9:35PM on 1-18-2009
Bye-bye to the amateur hour Mac Site... I hope this isn't your day job....
Michael Rose said 11:15PM on 1-18-2009
Again, Chip, thanks for the feedback. Please let us know what other Mac sites you plan to frequent, the other ways in which we aren't meeting your expectations, and how soon we should expect you to stop commenting on TUAW now that you're deleting your bookmark.
mentalsticks said 4:40AM on 1-19-2009
@Michael: have you noticed how many people are saying that tuaw is going downhill fast? And your only response to Chip is some not-so-witty sarcasm? If I were you guys I'd at least try to find out what te problem is. I've visited tuaw for a few years now, and the comments are more negative than ever lately - which, quite frankly, doesn't surprise me. In my opinion many (not all) of the recent criticisms are more than justified.
Might I suggest a talkcast or at the very least a weblog entry about what the readers would like to see different? You might actually learn something from it, as opposed to the lame sarcasm that you have displayed until now in your reactions to commenters.
Of course, it's your blog. But I'm quite sure you like to please your readers, and if I'm representative, that's happening less and less.
Michael Rose said 1:34PM on 1-19-2009
Mentalsticks, I don't discount Chip's feedback just because he commented off-topic on my post and addressed Victor (my boss) even though I'm the one reading the comments. I do feel, however, that I can give him back some snark for the circumstances of his feedback. "I'm deleting my bookmark" is a childish taunt. My usual response to that is "Start your own damn blog" but I was feeling magnanimous.
I disagree with your premise that the tone of the comments has grown MORE negative and critical over the past X number of days/weeks/months. I read the majority of the comments to the site, and by my estimation the peak of our negative feedback was over a year ago at the height of our iPhone jailbreak coverage, which caused many readers to threaten us with registered letters to our AOL overlords or to the FBI. Negative comments have been a relatively steady-state affair since then.
The "TUAW is slow on the news" meme is also not a new criticism and we are sensitive to that perception; however, we're not [insert name of site here] that chooses to reprint press releases with a one-line comment, or [other site here] that puts up 40 posts a day with every iPhone software update or new version of MyFabulousUtility. Our bloggers are all balancing their contributions to TUAW with their full-time professional lives, and so we encourage them to cover the stories that they find intriguing and compelling in the hopes that our readers will also find them interesting. Based on our traffic, and the vast majority of our feedback both in comments and in person at Macworld, we're living up to that standard.
When I get defensive about the criticisms, that's my personal reaction, but I'm human. There are other sites that have full-time writing staffs and full-time editors, and it's a big Internet, so if that's his cup of tea (or yours), by all means he should read them.
If by my tone I implied that we don't welcome and encourage constructive feedback -- I apologize, we do welcome it, but I didn't see Chip's comment as particularly constructive. My sense, based upon years of experience with newspaper and magazine letters-to-the-editor, is that the people who choose to offer negative comments (on a slow holiday weekend, no less) are grinding their axes independently of any objective standards and would find something else to gripe about if we fixed the particular leaky pipe of their current attention.
Anyone is welcome to join in on ANY talkcast and offer feedback, or send tips, or tweet, or email, or what have you. We follow up on negative reactions and we do try to understand why people have issues with the site. The idea of a specific feedback post on "what can we fix" is an interesting one and we did in fact do that pre-Macworld to try and set some of our coverage priorities. I fully expect that a general "what's wrong with TUAW" post would devolve into banality fairly quickly, but it might still be worth trying if only to demonstrate that we do have our ears to the ground.
Thanks, as always, for reading. If you'd like to offer specifics on how the site isn't meeting your personal needs, please say so and I'll email you personally.
TheMacMommy said 10:05PM on 1-18-2009
Well, I never said I wasn't kooky. I put up an Apple-esque get well card of my own. Cute little band-aid and all :)
http://themacmommy.blogspot.com/2009/01/get-well-steve.html
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ROger said 12:18AM on 1-19-2009
This effort is disrespectful. Some times, people need to respect others. This is one of those cases.
Lewis Crane said 12:14AM on 1-19-2009
Cute little band-aid! The guy is dying! Show some heart! Some people are kinda cold.
Michael Rose said 12:13AM on 1-19-2009
What exactly is 'disrespectful' about wishing someone a rapid and complete recovery? I could understand 'unnecessary' or 'irrelevant' but 'disrespectful' is confusing to me.
TheMacMommy said 2:57AM on 1-19-2009
Lewis and Roger, we don't know for certain the details of Steve Jobs' health (nor should we) and everyone is focused on speculating. You do not know for a fact he is dying so stop contributing to the rumor mill. It doesn't help anyone here. All we know is he is ill and taking time off. Period. We have every right to wish someone well when they are ill. This is no different.
To the rest of you, stop judging so quickly the intent of others and don't put them down for something they were doing to help the spirit of the community. Spend this energy getting involved with something positive!
Doesn't anyone use the beautiful stationery in Mail.app? It includes a get well image, so I felt it was appropriate. I think you're all missing the point and taking my post completely out of context. And shame on the trolls who came over and put nasty comments on my blog. That wasn't nice.
If I were going to send Steve Jobs a get well card, that's what it would look like. (Since I know it would never get to him, I posted one on my blog instead to share with the Mac Community just like the audio clips others shared.) I was truly being sincere. I would want Steve to know how much I enjoy using Apple products and how much I care about the fact that he is a person, not a stock symbol!
I expressed my true gratitude for the company and products Steve Jobs has helped to create which in turn has given me great joy and inspiration. I don't see the harm or disrespect in that at all.
I believe in the company, its products and the man who helped it all be what it is today and I was paying due respect. I sincerely wish him a speedy recovery and the ability to focus on spending time with his family. Perhaps even take some time to enjoy the very creations that will be his legacy some day. I'm truly shocked at how much flame I've now received for this and I don't understand where it's coming from.
The best we can do is focus on continuing to keep the Mac community thriving by sharing the ways we use Apple products and help inspire others to make computing fun and useful for the whole family.
Please do not comment unless you have something nice to say.
Thanks.
RogerC said 11:21AM on 1-19-2009
OK - I'm a different Roger and have actually been through a life threatening illness.
Certainly, the thoughts of appreciation, love and the genuine good wishes for a speedy recovery, from so many people, can be a source of comfort and joy during convalescence.
The human spirit and body are incredibly resilient. Don't count Steve out yet.
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Moose said 2:04PM on 1-19-2009
There's always some idjit out there who claims to dislike another's hard work and feels s/he has to announce it to the whole universe.
There's always some idjit out there who thinks he gets some kind of INTARRWEB Geek Points for saying nasty things on a website.
There's always some idjit out there who goes around posting "This place has jumped the shark" so that 10 yrs from now, if/when the site isn't as perfectly popular as it once was, they can crow, "I called it first!"
There's always some idjit out there who thinks acting like a 5-yr-old is "perfectly normal."
RULE ONE: PEOPLE ARE MORONS.
Ignore the idjits. You did it right the first time, Mike. The only proper response to, "Screw you guys, I'm going home!" Is, "That's nice, have a good time!"
(RULE TWO is AND YOU CAN SELL THEM ANYTHING. [Hey, Chip, I got some snow for sale, only $20/kg!])
ION, I echo what RogerC said. When you're very very sick, even the words of strangers can be of great comfort. Never, ever ignore the ill (or grieving) and "let them be in peace." They want to hear from you. Really.
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Nick said 6:34AM on 1-20-2009
Some of those get well soundbites were really very creepy. Especially the ones with the heavy breathing and strange sounds (like you get on serial killer cassettes) in the background...
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Bryan said 4:10PM on 1-23-2009
With regard to the talkcast this week, it's just my opinion, but it seemed odd to include these well-wishes to Steve on a podcast. If these are for Steve, why include them in a public podcast that we all listen to? I like the MacMommy's method of posting the well-wishing somewhere else. If the readers are interested in them, they can click through to see it. The same might have been done with these audio files. They could have easily been posted at a link wherein anyone who wanted to could click through and listed to them. But to have them added to a podcast that we regularly listen to and then have no other option but to speed-search through them did feel a little unnecessary. These are people wishing Steve well, I'm not Steve. It doesn't feel comfortable to have to listen to them. And then to have the greeting spread out through three sections instead of in one part, it felt like we were stretching out the pain of listening even further. Again, this is just my opinion.
Otherwise, I usually enjoy the weekly talkcasts, but not this one.
Best regards.
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