Further thoughts on the Kindle iPhone experience
It hasn't been a week since Amazon released the Kindle for iPhone app [App Store link] but the aftermath has been almost seismic. Kindle for iPhone has remained in the top ten free apps list since it was released. For a few days, it was number one. It looks like it was a good gamble for Amazon, and probably for Apple as no other smart phones (so far) have this app available. The Kindle for iPhone app also runs on the iPod touch.How is it to use? Actually, pretty darned good. Readability is high, and you can change the font size to your liking. Turning pages is just a matter of swiping your finger across the screen. A single touch gives you access to the table of contents of any book, and you can bookmark pages.
I liked the idea of the Kindle app so much, I actually broke down and bought the Kindle 2. The two devices interact, and you can have all your books on both devices. In fact, the iPhone Kindle app will come up on the same page you left off on the Kindle 2, or vice versa. I thought that would be an automatic function, but you have to tell each device to sync when you leave. Your mileage may vary, but that's what I am seeing.
Of course, even that rather cool function is a bit tricky with the iPhone, because its smaller screen can't display as many words as the Kindle 2 screen. Even though you are synced, you won't get a page that looks exactly the same. No big deal, though.
Read on for more...Illustrations look pretty good, and you get color on the iPhone screen, while the Kindle 2 remains grayscale. I'd like to be able to zoom in on those images though, which is something I can do on the Kindle 2.
What are the other downsides of the Kindle for iPhone app? I'd like to be able to read in landscape view, but the app only supports portrait. The dictionary feature is missing. On the 'real' Kindle you can move the cursor to a word and get a dictionary definition.
Finally, there are no magazine or newspapers subscriptions available on the iPhone side. Even if you have those subscriptions on the Kindle 2, they won't show up on the iPhone. Rumors are that they are coming, but nothing yet.
Apple's App Store gatekeepers didn't have to approve this application. It is to their credit that they did, especially given some of Steve's prior comments about reading and the Kindle.
I expect the Kindle for iPhone app will sell a fair number of books for Amazon, and maybe even a few Kindles as well. If buying books is not your thing, this site has thousands of books already in Kindle format ready to download. There are also thousands of free books available for the other iPhone readers like Stanza and eReader. In fact, Stanza will now sell you books for money, and like Amazon they have several selections from the New York Times best seller list.
As the market opens up, more choices will appear. That's all for the good. A few years ago it would have been hard to conceive of reading Dostoyevsky on my cell phone, but it has come to pass. Imagine what the next 5 to 10 years will bring.
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One thing you forgot to mention is that you have to have a hacked iPhone in order to get your non-purchased books onto your iPhone, since the online store doesn't manage anything ported via Kindle's USB drive.
March 13 2009 at 1:24 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyUntil the Kindle app adds features that Stanza has I don't see much benefit to having access to Amazon's library if the reading experience is so piss poor when compared to Stanza.
March 13 2009 at 1:06 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyKindle scares me - I don't know how I feel about a digital reader. I'll be honest, I prefer the real thing over a screen any time. If the issue is that you want to save money on books, then use the library or one of the new book rental services like BookSwim that's like a Netflix for books. That way you spend peanuts on lots of books and it's just as easy as getting it uploaded to some device. Give me paper, darnit!
March 11 2009 at 9:42 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI don't think the issue is price of content.
The advantage I assumed for eBooks-on-iPhone was that it's a compact way to always have reading material with me. And that has certainly turned out to be true.
However, even when at home, I find I prefer reading from my iPhone: It sits more comfortably in my hand than just about any book (and unlike others, I don't perceive a difference in eye-strain).
Paper still has some advantages: No battery life issues and no DRM. However, I suspect that those advantages will become less significant in the future.
FWIW, I read Kindle versions "Her Majesty's Dragon" and its first sequel "Throne of Jade" entirely on an iPhone (on the road) and an iPod touch (at home). Previously I had only read shorter works with Stanza. I also find that the smaller size of the iPod touch makes is slightly (but noticably) more comfortable than the iPhone for longer reading session.
"Her Majesty's Dragon" is currently free on Amazon's Kindle store: That now seems like an effective approach considering that I bought the first sequel and will likely buy the other three volumes in the series.
@JD - "...Amazing how TUAW unthinkingly accepts and endorses the idea of Steve Jobs's whims dictating what programs we can and can't run on our own phones. I'd understand if it was simple sycophancy, being positive when they need to to preserve their access to Apple, but it's clear from asides like this one that some of them really do believe that this dictatorial and capricious control is perfectly fine."
This is total bullshit. The blog post does not read, 'We here at TUAW are shocked and appalled that the Hegemony of Steve even deigned to consider this app.'
They are merely saying that, given the stance of the company's CEO and, bearing in mind that Amazon is introducing a book store onto the iPhone; undermining potential revenue the App Store generates from sales of eBook apps, Apple could just have easily have denied the Kindle app entry to the store.
If anything, this is an acknowledgement of the arbitrary nature of the approval process, rather than a vindication of it.
The writer was not just saying that "given the stance of the company's CEO and, bearing in mind that Amazon is introducing a book store onto the iPhone; undermining potential revenue the App Store generates from sales of eBook apps, Apple could just have easily have denied the Kindle app entry to the store." True, what he wrote was indeed "an acknowledgement of the arbitrary nature of the approval process," but he went on to say that "It is to their credit that they did [approve the app], especially given some of Steve's prior comments about reading and the Kindle."
"To their credit" suggests not just acknowledgement, but praise (albeit mild): we should be pleased (not just relieved) that someone in the hierarchy decided to go against Steve's prejudices or Apple's economic interests to approve this app. It is with that "to their credit" implication that I was quibbling: no one deserves praise for not being arbitrary and capricious, no matter how relieved we may be when, in some instance, it does not occur. Since most people share that view, I concluded that the writer did not in fact object particularly to the capricious nature of previous app rejections.
unghh, uh
Stanza is a much better reading experience for the iPhone IMHO. Surprised no one else has mentioned this.
As for the Kindle device, I prefer to read real books, but for camping or traveling the iPhone & Stanza works just fine for me. I know people who love the Kindle, but it's just not for me. The best books out there are either public domain or usually available at a good used book store for a few bucks.
Regarding Apple approving it, DUHHH! They don't sell ebooks and they don't sell ebook readers. No competition there. Obviously Amazon created this app to sell more ebooks and maybe more Kindles.
So I'll sit here with my tattered hardback copy of Imperial Earth ($2) while everyone else oohs and ahhs. Books will always be around, but it is entirely conceivable that Amazon will be gone in 20 years .....
Plus I can always give books I've read to friends, family or strangers.
I added the iPhone Kindle app as soon as it was available and love it. I usually take my Kindle 2 with me when I go shopping or to lunch, but yesterday I had to make a "quick" trip to the pharmacy to pick up some pills and didn't bother taking it along. When I got to the store where the pharmacy was, I discovered that it was closed for lunch so I had about 25 minutes to kill. I pulled out my iPhone and picked up reading a current book with no problems. When I got home, I turned on the Kindle and did a quick sync to last page read and finished the chapter I was on. It works like all apps should. Easy to use and no learning curve.
Erick
One thing I don't hear mentioned enough is that in addition to the free Kindle books you mention, you can also download a pretty good sample of most (all?) books available for the Kindle for free. These free samples are excellent ways to "test drive" a book before buying in a way I often can't even take the time to do in a brick-and-mortar bookstore.
March 11 2009 at 1:21 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySo this question may mean that I am too stupid to deserve an answer, but how do you get books from sites like feedbook or freekindlebooks onto the iPhone? I don't own a kindle, but I just wanted to check it out on the iphone.
March 11 2009 at 12:14 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI believe the only way to do that is to email it as a PDF to your Kindle. Go to amazon.com/kindle and click on "Manage Your Kindle" to set this up.
March 11 2009 at 1:27 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyOne important thing I forgot to mention is that Amazon charges $0.10 per attachment for this.
March 11 2009 at 1:29 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI've found that when I read on my iPhone and open my Kindle, it tells me I've been reading on the iPhone right away and asks me if I want to sync. I don't have to sync before closing the iphone app.
However, if I read further on the Kindle, and I open the iPhone app, I have to hit Sync for it to check and see if I've read further on another device.
Occasionally I will read on the iPhone to let's say page 100, close it, then open the iPhone app again without touching the kindle and the iPhone will open to something like page 75, even though I just read to page 100 right there on the iPhone. Hitting Sync then brings it up to where I left off, but still an odd problem.
So far I am very impressed. Sync works automatically and well for me. As soon as I open either the App or the Kindle I get a message telling me the time and section of other device and asking if I wish to go to the new page. I am sure it is very dependent on 3g coverage, fortunately the DC area has pretty good reception...
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