Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Server pricing is good for business
In this morning's rush to figure out what had changed at the Apple Store, one of our readers pointed out that Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Server (US$499 for an unlimited license) was priced lower than Leopard Server (US$999 for unlimited users). While this is nothing new -- we've known about the price change since June -- it bears repeating. For businesses with small, single offices to large enterprises with racks full of Xserves, Snow Leopard Server makes a lot of sense. That $499 license provides a lot -- a mail server (not Exchange-compatible, however), CalDAV server for group calendars, group-wide Time Machine backups to a server, a podcast producer, a wiki server, an iChat server, and the new Mobile Access Server, in addition to a plethora of other administrative and client management options.
Along with the Xserve, which I've found to be comparably priced to other enterprise-class servers, and the Mac mini, which makes a great little inexpensive headless server for small offices, Apple has created a set of powerful business tools. Considering that it's now half the price of Leopard Server, Snow Leopard Server is something that more system admins may want to look at, especially in Microsoft-dominated shops.
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In this morning's rush to figure out what had changed at the Apple Store, one of our readers pointed out that Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard...
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Could someone please explain to me what y'all mean when you say "Not compatible with Exchange"?
Exchange is a mail SERVER, and supports all of the standard mail exchange protocols that every other mail server on the internet supports. An OS X server can send and receive mail from an Exchange server without any problems at all -- thousands of them around the world do it every day.
OS X Server supports IMAP, POP3, and SMTP, all of which are also supported in Outlook. With IMAP, you get "synchronization" of your mail from the server to the client and back. SL Server supports push of mail and IMAP IDLE for initiating mail download from the server to the client.
Also, seriously -- when's the last time that anyone in your company had SECONDS to make a business critical decision via email and would have been screwed if Exchange hadn't pushed that email to them? (If that's actually happened in your company, I posit that you have bigger problems than can be solved by a mail server.)
Awesome. The three companies that use OS X server will be really happy. I'm not even saying it's inferior but the fact is that the vast majority of companies use Linux or Windows. The fact that OS X server isn't Exchange compatible is no doubt part of the reason why.
August 30 2009 at 11:43 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI work for a Fortune 500, 27 billion dollar /year corporation. We have a 12,000sq datacenter, and 25% of my servers are running Xserve and Leopard 10.5
We use leopard to support over 1000 computers that are a mixed bag of linux, windows and macs.
I am pretty sure you have heard that the DoD runs on Macs...
I have always said, that for webserving use linux, desktop and servers for crunching numbers use macs, and if you need to play solitaire, run windows.
Very clueless response. Apple has been selling about 40,000 copies of OS X Server Unlimited a year since 2002 and each of them comes with server hardware as an accessory. Nobody really cares what everyone else is using. My wife works in an Outlook/Exchange shop and they can't even send photos or files to each other half the time - and management believes that's as good as it gets. If Exchange ever becomes standards compliant, it might be worth looking at. Otherwise it's like pounding a brick to your forehead.
August 31 2009 at 1:36 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySteve,
For 10-client Leopard Server customers, the new pricing is a disaster:
There is no 10-client upgrade--you have to pay full price.
If I needed >10 clients, I'd have bought an unlimited license in the first place. Unlimited clients have ZERO value for me.
So why exactly does Apple think it's OK to hose me with a $500 "upgrade" for my $500 Leopard Server 10-client license?
Adam
Considering the regular 10 client license of Leopard server is $399, getting an upgrade to SL unlimited for $499 is a freaking bargain. Its a bargain for 1- client user to jump unlimited, for $100 more than it would have cost a regular 10.5 version, and a -500$ for those who payed $999 for the unlimited lic.
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To the rest whining and complaining about Exchange. Have you realized that as much as apple has promised easier tools to interface exchange with osx, there is something called Unix under the hood of OSX that if you know your command line well, you can link it to anything in your datacenter.
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To the rest... has anyone who has been pondering in exchange as a mail solution, tested or have considered running or "demoing" kerio mailserver? It is a much cheaper solution that gives the same enterprise solution as exchange for a fraction of the cost.
At my office we migrated from Exchange 2007 to the latest kerio mail server, company saved a buttload of $$$ and we still get the best performance as if exchange was in place. best thing is our client users didnt notice the difference.
our servers go: OD to AD / Exchange / Kerio binding and its running cool and good.
just my .02 cents.
Oh here we go again... Microsoft sucks... Mac OS X sucks.. Blackberrys are the best.. NO Iphones are the best....You suck.. no YOU SUCK! Why can't we just come to the conclusion not every product is good for everyone? Mac OS Server works beautifully for my 19 member company - and we have all the same requirements of big companies. And guess what? It cost me $499 a machine and we can expand all we want. We were a M$ shop but the money it cost to maintain windows servers and exhange CALs was prohibitive. We couldn't afford it anymore. Mac OS X Server was a godsend for us. Will it be for you? Maybe - maybe not. Accept the fact it works for a lot of us and if it doesn't for you? Oh well. Now let's get down to the facts and give us a review of how this product works in the field.
August 30 2009 at 9:30 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThanks for the review of 10.6 server's price.
Yeah...
Now how about a review of 10.6 server.
The new AddressBook server for contact sync on a network (something which as yet on any platform excluding dedicated databases work well; exchange, sorry buds, that's just woeful and causes terrible fragmentation of company contacts and user confusion); improved mobile account management, inclusion of iPhone as a managed client for contact, mail and calendaring. Push from the mail server (and does it work well yet).
Some would like to actually know about this stuff, meaningful stuff...
And while you are reviewing the price?!?! how about some kind of comment at LEAST on the current lack of the 10 CAL version, so what exactly are small businesses running on a mac mini going to do now, upgrade to unlimited to service their 3 computers and 3 phones.
Cy -
A review of OS X Server Snow Leopard will come as soon as I get my NFR copy from the Apple Consultants Network program. As much as I would have loved to have gone out and spent $499 out of my own pocket to make our readers happy, I don't make enough blogging for TUAW nor do I get reimbursed for purchases like that.
The point of the review, which might not have been apparent, was that the server version of Snow Leopard is an amazing bargain.
Steve
Thanks Steve,
looking forward to it, suprised they have been slack in getting a review copy to you.
I do get the point of the article, right up until it becomes bad value for a 10cal upgrader. My clients aren't big enough for unlimited licenses.
I don't know why anyone would use a MS server or a Mac OS X Server.
Linux or FreeBSD servers are very robust and reliable. Most websites on the Internet are either using Linux or FreeBSD. Best of all the software licensing cost is $0.
actually, we rely on it every day. it's been great...saved our butts on more than one occasion.
August 30 2009 at 4:23 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyJust to clarify I hate exchange! However if you are going to use it, you might as well use the hosted version as you avoid having to maintain it. Also Google Apps is $50 per user per year.
August 30 2009 at 3:47 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWhy don't you save your clients a ton of money and utilize a hosted exchange solution provided directly from Microsoft? For $10/month per user your get the full communications suite without all of the hassle.
August 30 2009 at 2:57 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWho cares it's not Exchange compatible? Exchange is a POS on so many levels it's not funny. From the tie/lock to AD, the horrid "all your mail is a huge database", to the nightmare admin I fail to see why people think Exchange is good. It is not.
If you look at the tech specs for Snow Leopard server, it's got them all - push mail, calendars, iCal server. And iCal server is just calDAV so you need a client that supports that. Sadly the other POS from MS called Outlook doesn't support CalDAV (wonder why) but there are connectors available.
In short, Skip the POS Exchange and save your company lots of $$ by using Snow Leopard server. :)
Well of course you need AD for Exchange. it's MS' email product running on their directory infrastructure. Just like you need OD for Apple's email solution in their server product. Your gripe goes both ways buddy...
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