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Front Row performance on the mini takes a dive with Snow Leopard

Here's an interesting feature of Snow Leopard that you may or may not (probably not) find particularly useful. Apparently after upgrading to 10.6 several users at the Apple Discussion Forums -- mostly owners of Mac mini or MacBook models with the GMA950 graphics subsystem -- are reporting poor performance with Front Row.

The performance issue seems to effect navigation as well as playback, resulting in jerky video/audio in the menu and when watching a movie. This is also not limited to pesky DiVx files or QuickTime plug-ins either, as some users are reporting seeing the problem with iTunes purchases and others are even running a completely stock installation. Interestingly enough, some of the same users with Front Row issues are not seeing the same problems when playing back with QuickTime X.

In my opinion, this is not much of a surprise following such a major upgrade to many of the OS's underpinnings -- including an overhaul to QuickTime on which Front Row is largely based. This is the reason I did not upgrade the Mac mini in my living room. Aside from being a full-time webserver, I also rely on it for multimedia functionality as well.

Some folks with complaints have found solace in either Plex or Boxee as these fine media players do not rely on QuickTime or iTunes. For most though, a working Front Row would be ideal. Personally, I have not checked for problems with Front Row since my multimedia Mac hasn't been upgraded. However, I did note some wonkiness on another machine when using QuickLook to playback some video files through Finder. I have a sneaking suspicion there is something going on related to QuickTime X being used by other programs (i.e. FrontRow or QuickLook). What say you dear readers? Is your Front Row experience causing you grief or are you simply smirking because you haven't received your pre-order upgraded yet?

Thanks to Ivey for sending this in via Twitter.


Here's an interesting feature of Snow Leopard that you may or may not (probably not) find particularly useful. Apparently after upgrading...
 

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friedom2b

MacBook 2.0Ghz 3GB RAM GMA950 and yes. . .FrontRow problems too. When scrolling the menus, it is very choppy and blurry. When loading a movie there is usually a long pause before the video starts playing. Also my fans kick on frequently now, in Leopard it did not.

I did an upgrade over my previous install of Leopard 10.5.8 and I see the speed increase with the native apps, but almost all of my third party apps are "broken" now and cannot be loaded since Snow Leopard doesn't support them. It has been extremely frustrating and now I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to downgrade back to Leopard 10.5.8 just to get my system feeling solid again and especially better FrontRow performance. My wife and I use my MacBook to watch movies all of the time and even now she is annoyed with how much time I spend fiddling with it and trying to troubleshoot performance issues. This is exactly how I used to use my Windows PCs, constantly tinkering trying to improve performance and never actually "using" my computer. I consider myself a "fanboy" but I think I've had enough of the Snow Leopard experiment for now. It's either I purchase a new Mac or wait for fixes, that's my dilemma with Snow Leopard right now.

September 07 2009 at 11:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Brad Owens

Yet another reason why I won't be upgrading right now

http://bit.ly/1hyCt3

September 04 2009 at 4:13 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bradley

Not only is Front Row less responsive under Snow Leopard (especially when using media from my Air Disk), but there's a new issue when using my Apple Remote (and Rowmote for iPhone) to control Plex, it also controls my volume, launches Front Row, etc. I picked a bad time to upgrade my HTPC to Snow Leopard.

September 03 2009 at 6:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
2shae

I wondering why they haven't updated Frontrow at all.

It still has all the same bugs and it's not 64 bit :S

And I wish they got rid of the Apple TV interface for Frontrow because it doesn't fit with OS X at all.

September 02 2009 at 12:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Randian

I just discovered I have the same problem on my core2duo mini. (smooth scrolling in Front Row menus is just a memory). Now to the interesting part: I'm still in *LEOPARD* - I don't know exactly when the problem started, but I suspect it was after the recent Apple Leopard update, to 10.5.8.

Can anyone confirm?

September 02 2009 at 8:12 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Zenara25

Front Row was working fine for me in 10.5.8. Now in 10.6 Snow Leopard Front Row is very slow and dvd playback is choppy. The dvd standalone player works fine though.

Macbook 13" Core (not 2) Duo 2Ghz, 2Gb ram, Intel GMA 950

September 07 2009 at 10:18 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Iain

Front Row performance on my Core Duo 1.66 Mac mini blew chunks in later builds of Leopard. Plex is rocking 1080p rips under both Leopard and SL on my mini.

September 01 2009 at 8:53 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Dorv

I use Plex, but last I checked it doesn't do DVDs (Thus, why I use Plex to call Front Row for DVD playing from Plex's application menu).

September 02 2009 at 8:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SD

Everyting is working fine on my CoreDuo Mini With the GMA950 chipset.

September 01 2009 at 6:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
spudicus

I have our Intel core 2 duo Mac Mini hooked up to our HDTV. I upgraded because I had read that SL adds 1080p support for dvi output. After the upgrade I have the option to set the output to 1080i. ( highest setting our TV goes to) However, watching rip...ah..er...backed up dvds from an external drive is severely choppy. Everything is fine if I set it to 720p. I figured this was a limitation of the hardware. It would be cool if it is only a bug.

September 01 2009 at 5:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
keo.skalpa

A lot of people missed the point here.... This is not a "problem" but a "feature": anything older than the Unibody MacBook pros is considered legacy hardware.

QuickTime X only supports 9400+ GPUs, and I don't expect 10.7 to change anything in two years (4 years old machines at that time, wow.... ).

So as sad as it sounds, just prepare yourself to buy new computers if you still think Mac OS X is worth any kind of sacrifice ( personally: if I'm going to have to change everything every two years, it's going to get above my means quickly, and not worth it anymore, considering that to the price of my hardware and OS X, I still have to add the price of a VMWare license, and the price of a Windows license too if I want to play my games ).

September 01 2009 at 4:53 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tv

I haven't upgraded yet.. but i won't if this cause problems for Bootcamp since I use Vista MC for my HTPC front end needs..

September 01 2009 at 4:21 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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