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Microsoft manager admits to copying 'Mac look and feel,' MS denies

We've been saying it for years, but everyone thought that we Mac-heads had a chip on our shoulder from the once-sour relationship with Microsoft. Finally, however, the truth has come to light; a group manager from Microsoft has gone on record and admitted the source of some of Windows 7's prettier bits and pieces.

Simon Aldous sat down with PCR for an interview and when he was asked to comment on the agility of Redmond's latest operating system, he had this to say:
"What we've tried to do with Windows 7 – whether it's traditional format or in a touch format – is create a Mac look and feel."
While I am glad that people at Microsoft are finally accepting the superiority of OS X, it still stung a little when Simon started to backtrack saying that Vista was more stable than OS X.

Update: It looks like the Windows team had a few things to say about Simon's earlier remarks, noting that "his comments were inaccurate and uninformed." It is, in my opinion, difficult to deny that the OS X Dock has had a positive impact on how people use their computers -- whether they be PCs or Macs. That being said, I'm glad Microsoft didn't take this one lying down.

[via Engadget]

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tdowling

Jordan: Because the space is still usable? The dock itself is only as big as you want it to be. Plus, the portion that takes up space doesn't have to be opaque when it's visible.

November 12 2009 at 8:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Max Howell

I respected the honesty, the denials just make me scornful. It's pretty obvious they were inspired by OSX. I'm not even sure copying the Dock was a good idea frankly. The Dock aint so hot.

November 12 2009 at 12:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
itguy07

Please, Win7 is modeled after OS X. Even Ray Charles can see the similarities.

November 12 2009 at 10:02 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
techpops

Not sure why this appeared so highly in Google Readers sort by magic view as it really is a poor write up. The dock isn't even Apples invention, they copied it too!

I just wish geeks would accept that almost nothing is original in UI design anymore. The best you can hope for is an improvement on what went before.

The new taskbar in Windows 7 is a huge improvement over anything that went before it. I initially hated it being so used to XP's horrendous taskbar for years but now I can't imagine working without it.

As for OSX being superior to Windows 7, if it is better, it's not better by much. Both OS's are now so mature as to do exactly what most people want most of the time. Both can be tweaked to better suit the more geeky crowd and the end result is two products that just work well.

In modern 3D games, it is expected that each game will copy ideas from the best of the previous games and hopefully improve on them. End result, we get better games. Lets apply that to OS's and applications and be done with the childishness.

November 12 2009 at 7:28 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
TIm

I must actually say that I find the Win7 taskbar to be looking a lot more like the Linux/KDE taskbar then the Dock.

T.

November 12 2009 at 3:54 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tdowling

I dunno...I personally like that the dock doesn't force me to lose screen space when it's visible. And I've found that keeping it on the side of the screen rather than the bottom works rather nicely.

November 12 2009 at 12:30 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
blah

I didn't bother to read the article, but isn't it a jump to go from, "create a mac look and feel" to "copying mac look and feel"?


Might be semantics, but one is not like the other, not entirely.


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November 11 2009 at 11:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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jonathan

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November 12 2009 at 11:06 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
macjedi

I'm a Mac, and Windows 7 was my idea.

November 11 2009 at 10:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Uncontrol

"While I am glad that people at Microsoft are finally accepting the superiority of OS X,"

I can't imagine where people get the idea that Mac users are elitists ...

November 11 2009 at 10:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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gg

Fixed that for you

I can't imagine where people get the idea that Mac users are realists

November 11 2009 at 10:23 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
RyanR

And of course Win users would never say the same about the OS they use now would they, especially if someone from Apple came out and said they borrowed ideas from MS.

November 12 2009 at 8:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
macserv

The new task bar in Windows 7 goes a long way toward emulating the Dock's functionality. And are you saying the task bar in Windows Vista and prior hasn't been in the way of anything?

November 11 2009 at 10:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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