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New Windows Home Server beta improves Mac support

How many TUAW readers have ever considered running a Windows server at home? I'm guessing not many. I'm hopefully going to convince you that's a shame because they can offer many features not easily (or cheaply!) replicated with Apple's own products.

Engadget reports that a new beta version of Microsoft's Windows Home Server OS boasts considerably enhanced Mac support. Despite being a Unix-turned-Mac guy, I've had one of HP's MediaSmart servers (pictured) in my house for almost a year now, and it's neatly assimilated itself alongside my Macs thanks to HP's secret sauce add-ons. I couldn't be happier with it.

Read on for exactly how it's all done.

For example, I run iTunes (here's how) directly on the device, control it via my iPhone, and stream the output to my living room or kitchen with an Airport Express. This has the advantage that it works even if my Macbook is sleeping on battery power. Going the other way, HP has a free iPhone app that can stream media stored on the device over the Internet to my phone, wherever I am -- including over 3G, although the quality of video over 3G makes early YouTube look palatable.

Even better, it is where my Time Machine backups live. My Macbook streams backups to it hourly, just as if it were a Time Capsule, but unlike Apple's device my backup is redundantly stored on multiple hard disks. If a disk fails in the MediaSmart my data is fully protected, unlike in a Time Capsule. That's probably not incredibly important to everyone, but I'm a backup nerd. Knowing my file edit and delete history is itself protected against hardware failure gives me the warm fuzzies. This bit only works because of software HP has added, but it sounds as though Microsoft is moving that capability into the base OS in the future, so more Windows Home Server vendors will be able to offer it.

As you'd expect from a modern storage device, it's essentially unlimited in expansion options. Between four SATA drive bays, three USB ports, and an extra eSATA jack, I could upgrade to well over 20TB if I felt the need and was willing to tolerate the clutter of external hard disks. The lack of disk expansion options in anything other than the Mac Pro is something that bothers me about Apple's product lineup.

Many Mac owners trying to solve problems like these gravitate to a Drobo instead. At the time I bought the MediaSmart, they only offered the dumb USB/Firewire storage-only models. I don't own any always-on desktop Macs so I was actively looking for something that could act as a server as well as a file store. The new Drobo FS has some limited ability to run server tasks, but the support from third parties is not as broad as Microsoft's offering. You can't run iTunes on it, for example.

There are a few things my little HP does badly, such as run Air Video Server. My unit doesn't have enough CPU horsepower to stream videos with live conversion to my iPad, although HP does offer more powerful models. Overall though I've been very happy with my MediaSmart. I applaud HP's strong Mac support with what (on the face of it) should be a very Windows-centric device, and I'll be happy to see Microsoft's Windows Home Server team support Macs as first-class clients in future releases.

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Jeff

@FreeRange

I'm not a Microsoft fan at all, but they are kicking Apple's ass in this area. I love the idea of a Mac mini server, but its useless. No expansion. No eSATA connector. With iMacs, Mac minis, iPads, and iPods marketed at consumers, its clear Apple doesn't care about home networking or storage. Its all about "personal". Thats why you can't find an expandable Mac for under $2500. Its crazy. Apple likes to dumb things down and maybe they haven't figured out how to dumb down network storage or servers yet. Like I said, I love the idea of the Mac mini server. But I need home storage. It doesn't cut it. Give me something like it with 4 or 5 drive bays and I'll buy today.

August 20 2010 at 9:32 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Keith Smith

@FreeRange:

Why? I hate to say it, because this is exactly what I'm looking to do and have been planning on a Mac Mini Server, but it's easy in this case. HP MediaSmart PC with four bays of expansion plus additional external options via eSATA and USB sells for less than $500. Mac Mini with ZERO internal expansion - yes, it comes with a pair of 500GB 2.5" drives but before you trust data to them please check the failure rate of 2.5" drives vs 3.5" drives - sells for a mere $500 more. That's what they call a no-brainer, son.

August 20 2010 at 9:14 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
David Huff

@Freerange: Why do it ? Maybe it's the best tool for the author's particular needs. Apple as a corporation doesn't love you any more (or less) than Microsoft, so please - get over the "M$ is teh evil!" nonsense.

August 20 2010 at 8:53 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Oliver

I'm also sold. This would be especially useful in my house, where there are both Macs and PCs. It also has a real advantage over a Time Capsule in that it has user replaceable drives and many useful extensions (such as the iTunes server). I wonder if it cam stream to an Apple TV?

August 20 2010 at 8:36 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ratz

Sorry I forgot one last thing :)
I also want to watch podcast and live Internet streaming shows on my TV such as TWiT shows from Leo Laporte.

August 20 2010 at 1:30 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ratz

Oh I also have a new XBox 360 and a Samsung Blu-Ray player. Both my TV and the player have Internet connectivity.

August 20 2010 at 1:25 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ratz

I'm not against using a Windows Media Server if it works well for what I need to do.
I have a 40" Samsung LED TV that has a feature called Allshare but it's not Mac compatible. I do have a network drive that it will see and if I convert my video files to DVix they work but I think I might want a Windows home server with multiple drives? Any advice or knowledge of getting my Samsung to work with Macs? It would be nice to have RAID so there is a safety factor. It really bothers me that Apple hasn't put a SATA external connection on the iMacs.
It seems like it would just be nice not to have to worry about finding and keeping up with a hack to get it working, in other words just use a Windows machine.
Also any hardware recommendations for streaming content to my Samsung? I don't have to have the top of the line but I want it to handle what I want it to do without problems.

August 20 2010 at 1:18 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jeffh

I'm glad you posted this... I've been going to apple stores asking for advice about NAS. Like you, I want multiple hard drives RAIDed together.

I DO like that the QNAP and Drobo and Netgear ReadyNAS can all grow their raids as you add larger disks one at a time... and that all have built in AFP.

Can the HP also expand it's raid as you add larger disks one at a time? (honest question - not flame bait) or do you have to match all of them at one time?

I already own an apple time machine - but I'd like to have multiple TB of storage accessible to all computers in my house... agreed about the lack of drive space in mac pro... plus $2.5K is too much for what I'm after.

Thanks for advice.

August 19 2010 at 11:21 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Chris

You can mix and match drive sizes without a problem. Even the manufacturer. I have the stock 1TB Seagate, 2 1TB WD Blacks, and another 1TB Seagate. No issues.

August 20 2010 at 7:09 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
MarkF

Drobos use less power than a Macmini. A 5 drive Drobo FS, which costs $599 uses 56 Watts with five drives. AND it supports AFP and has seamless integration with Time Machine.

August 19 2010 at 10:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Chris

Drop in a new CPU. Running an EX490 with an Intel Pentium E6600 (Wolfdale) running at a full 3.06GHz. Dual core goodness, much better then the stock Celeron. Easy swap to do, and worth it.

August 19 2010 at 10:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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