limera1n jailbreak released, greenpois0n jailbreak delayed
Jailbreak limera1n was released today for 4.1 iDevice users in what appears to be a contentious situation in the hacking community. Windows-only, the new jailbreak is not expected to work with Apple TV or debut on Linux and OS X for a bit.The previously announced dev-team jailbreak, which was due out tomorrow, may be put on hold while the team works on revising their tools for the limera1n exploit rather than exposing multiple exploits that will quickly be patched.
Jailbreaking, while legal, is based on finding system weaknesses to allow hobbyists to inject code that will open their devices to full system read-write access. It is this full access that allows third party developers to customize the OS and install new applications and extensions.
Having looked forward to developing for Apple TV starting tomorrow, count me among the disappointed.
Update: The Limera1n page has updated to indicate that Apple TV jb is "technically supported". I can confirm that I put my ATV2 into DFU mode and was able to "jailbreak" it. But since no AFC services or OpenSSH were installed (let alone APT), there's nothing that really can be done with it at this time.
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I JAILBROKE MY IPHONE 4 WITH LIMEWIRE AND AFTERWARDS I CANT USE MY PHONE IT ALWAYS SAY NO SERVICE I GO INTO SETTINGS THEN CLICK ON PHONE AND UNDER MY NUMBER IT SAYS UNKNOWN. ANYONE KNOW WHAT TO DO ? THANKS
November 20 2010 at 8:40 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI JAILBROKE MY IPHONE 4 WITH LIMEWIRE AND AFTERWARDS I CANT USE MY PHONE IT ALWAYS SAY NO SERVICE I GO INTO SETTINGS THEN CLICK ON PHONE AND UNDER MY NUMBER IT SAYS UNKNOWN. ANYONE KNOW WHAT TO DO ? THANKS
November 20 2010 at 8:38 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI JAILBROKE MY IPHONE 4 WITH LIMEWIRE AND AFTERWARDS I CANT USE MY PHONE IT ALWAYS SAY NO SERVICE I GO INTO SETTINGS THEN CLICK ON PHONE AND UNDER MY NUMBER IT SAYS UNKNOWN. ANYONE KNOW WHAT TO DO ? THANKS
November 20 2010 at 8:34 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyYou can download greenpois0n here: http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2010/10/12/chronic-dev-team-releases-greenpois0n-rc3/
October 20 2010 at 4:58 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHey did u see re limera1n website it say Mac is coming in 7 years check it out that's kinda wierd don't you think
October 11 2010 at 6:28 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI reckon that Apple deliberately leaves holes that can be exploited by the jailbreak community.
At the moment there are something like 4 to 5 million jailbroken iPhones worldwide (not including ipod Touch or iPads) -- that is a lot in lost sales.
At an average price of $500, gross earnings for 4 million units are $2,000,000,000. If Apple is making 35% profit, that's $700,000,000
At an average price of $500, gross earnings for 5 million units are $2,500,000,000. If Apple is making 35% profit, that's $875,000,000
No sane person is going to want to lose that much money.
"Knowing the existence of an exploit is not the same as knowing what the exploit is. Apple knows the abstract name SHAtter. And has video that SHAtter works sure. But what was the code that had the flaw to exploit it? Apple knows that as much as "everyone" does too. And they can't fix it without knowing it more intimately."
-SHAtter cannot be fixed by apple on all compatible devices. So I persist, stop making that excuse.
In the "Put your money where your mouth is department", I am a really good software developer, and manager (Having been a director / chief architect / staff scientist at more than one startup, and primarily working for the computer manufacturers side of the world, not application, and I have numerous patents in the field). Just my background for general information. I'd be happy to create an organization, now that jailbreaking is not illegal, to find new exploits and release them free to the community at large. This organization will be dedicated employees working to discover the exploits and releasing them to the primary non-profit-on-my-spare-time current jailbreak community, call the advent organization a jailbreak resource.
The rough back of the envelope calculation is that I'd need about 40,000 US dollars a month to sustain an appropriate size organization (and yes it will be international in nature) to keep up with Apple.
So if you all would like to see more organization, come up with the first 6 months ($240,000.00) and I'll create a non-profit company in the public interest to aid the jailbreak community.
By the way, this is to pay currently competitive salaries in the locations I contemplate for developers in the US and abroad. It is a pure development effort since no marketing or sales is required, and it is all future products research.
Let me know if you'll fund it.
The jailbreak community right now is likely putting about $1.2 million a year of effort into finding the exploits, and then the much more important packaging of the exploits in a manner that ham-fisted users can use without bricking, as in permanently making unusable, not the have to reload foo-bricking of their device.
For the most part the current dev community is resource starved because they don't as a whole want donations. You want to help, here is a way.
Tjp
Hi Alive et al, Long semi-rant, skip if you understand the situation already, really understand, not think you understand. All of this bru ha ha (ha ha) is over a lack of understanding the process.
The SHAtter exploit that allows the GreenPois0n jailbreak (and inclusion of SHAtter into PWNage for us unlockers that need to avoid the whole upgrade the baseband thing, though Tiny Umbrella could be used for that) {dramatic pause for effect and to catch my breath} is a ROM hack, same as the one in Limew1re. BUT and this is a BIG BIG BUT, the Limew1re exploit is already fixed in future devices. Saying GP is a hardware exploit is naive. And saying it is broad is just wrong. It only applies to A4 products, i.e., the latest ones, no legacy support. While George was a bit high handed in how he pushed the issue, the end result is the correct one. Use the exploit Apple knows about. Then in the future as Apple builds ROMs for new devices (they don't just start over each time you know, they use the old code as a starting point and modify it to create the new code to be programmed into the bootroms), Apple will perhaps leave the SHAtter exploit usable.
So.
1.) Limew1re exploit is most likely already fixed in the latest Apple code for future releases and devices. This is a known thing as the ROM code mirrors some other code and developer 4.2 beta is likely the source of the information. Or some other back channel we don't want to talk about to loudly.
2.) The SHAtter exploit appears to be unknown to Apple. This means in future software development for the ROM images for the iPhone 5, for new iPhone 4s manufactured real soon now, and so on and on and on, the SHAtter exploit is still usable, UNLESS you release it too.
So, in conclusion, All the jailbreak community runs on ego, else they would be like competitors and good sports and say, Hurray a second way to jailbreak the phone! But, they are also reasonably smart folks. If one exploit is already in the process of being fixed by Apple then use it while you can. This has happened in the past already with the bootrom images for the 3Gs which changed mid stream, and before that the bootrom of the original iPhone changed, I believe. It is better for the whole community, and makes it possible to preserve SHAtter so that FUTURE hardware may include the same flaws that allow the SHAtter exploit (and I am biased, I have a stack of iDevices not based on the A4 that I use for testing and it is about mandatory to jailbreak them, to unlock them, so I can use them without paying AT&T for multiple accounts). There is likely not an infinite number of exploits and it is difficult to find them. And the time to find them is longer and longer. Burning a useful one (even if limited usefulness) like SHAtter is just bad jailbreak exploit management if Limew1re is already known. This is a community thing not a "Whine, I want it now even though I contribute nothing to the jailbreak community thing.", which seems the prevalent attitude. The DevTeam and chronic dev team all have a jailbreak. They don't need to release it at large. They could be capitalistic butt-heads and make a ton of money off their work. Early retirement, buy an island money. But the graciously donate their efforts to the world. The world. The world. Not to me. Or you. Or you. The world. And while they have egos to match George in some cases, they are smart guys. They even if begrudgingly do the right thing for the long view.
Geo, not bad, just bad timing.
DevTeam and chronic dev team, upset with timing, but not doing a delay to upset anyone.
Wow.
used it, made it work by using it in compatibility mode on windows7, installed lockinfo a few of my other favorite hacks before realizing that the app store had disappeared. not good. hopefully a restore will fix this. if not i'm in big trouble. Will wait for the chronic team to add this to greenpois0n before i try it again
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