Camp Logos took me from know-nothing to advanced
Over the weekend, I attended the Camp Logos training seminar for Logos Bible Study software. I have been to lots of seminars, but this was my first one specifically about software, and I went in not really knowing what to expect. I was completely blown away by how useful it was.
When Logos for Mac came out last year, I spent a little bit of time using it, but I never really got into it. Logos 4 is a major redesign, and it was recently released for Mac. This is software that I could use on a daily basis, and learning more about it would save me a great deal of time, so it seemed like a good fit.
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Logos is a cross-platform app, and it deviates from some of the normal Mac ways of doing things. For example, the toolbar next to the "Command" box can't be customized by right clicking and choosing "Customize," but the instructor (Morris Proctor, a former Logos user turned full-time teacher and author) explained that we could type commands into the command box and then drag them from there onto the toolbar. For example, he had us type "Close All" in the Command field, then drag it over to the toolbar; this gave us a one click "clean up" button rather than having to close a bunch of windows one at a time or remember the keyboard shortcut.
The way Logos handles windows and tabs is also different than most other Mac apps. There's a main window; inside the window are tiles, and inside the tiles are tabs. Logos has a "Layouts" menu, but it didn't really make much sense to me, so I had mostly ignored it. We learned how to manage windows, tiles, and tabs, plus create our own custom layouts and "link" windows together so that as one window changes, the other windows will automatically scroll or change to keep up.
Now, I have a custom layout that shows me four different Bible translations and another that shows me a Bible and commentary side-by-side. Morris also explained that if we get to a point where we have a bunch of different Logos windows on our screen, selecting one of the predefined layouts will tell Logos to "clean up" our workspace and organize it automatically.
I've organized my library so that I can do more refined searches and have a better chance of finding what I'm looking for without having to sort through a bunch of unhelpful results. By prioritizing some items in my library (open the Library, click on Prioritize), Logos knows which Bibles and commentaries I prefer and will choose those when I access other tools.
That's just a tiny fraction of everything we learned. We met for four hours on Friday evening and all day Saturday. During that time, I went from someone who knew practically nothing about Logos (other than how to do a basic text search) to being able to do advanced searches, customizations, and actually use the software in the most efficient way possible. Every single tip, trick, or "How To" in the course is going to be useful to me going forward.
Since Logos for Mac is fairly new, I wondered how much Mac interest there would be. I was surprised to see that about 40% of the people who attended were using MacBooks. Although the demonstration machine was a Windows box, Morris also made sure to mention both Mac and PC keyboard shortcuts, so I never felt like a "second-class citizen" as a Mac user.
If you are a Logos user who wants to learn more about the software, especially if you think you're not getting everything out of it that you could, I highly recommend Camp Logos. I wouldn't be surprised if even people who consider themselves very familiar with Logos learned some new tips and tricks. Check out the schedule of upcoming seminars to see if there's one near you. Morris also sells two training manuals on his website. I bought both of these, not only as a refresher, but also because there's more in there than we could cover in two days. I also bought the Inductive Bible Study book and sermon preparation book, which show how to use the software for specific purposes.
(Accordance Users: don't feel left out! Accordance runs some free training seminars for you. I plan to attend one of those if I can work out the timing and find a location close enough.)
Editor's Note: TJ's registration fees for Camp Logos were waived by the training organizers after he signed up; he paid his own travel and lodging expenses. Other than that consideration, no sponsorship or advertising relationship exists between Camp Logos and TUAW. See our policy on blogger travel and coverage.
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I would love to go to one of these training camps if they ever held any in Ireland. Logos is great piece of software for bible study and sermon preparation. Thanks for covering it.
October 26 2010 at 7:11 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySure, it's whomever's right to post and read these rather frequent reviews of bible studies apps, but, I'll just add my vote for TUAW's editors. I don't enjoy these religious posts, and it's not what I come to the site to read. Yes, I can just not be interested and move on, which is what I've always done before, but there seems to be a lot of these, too many. Thanks.
October 20 2010 at 3:02 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThere will always be people who think there's too much of a specific topic. Imagine this... there's someone sick of posts related somehow to religion, no more of those posts. Then there's someone who's sick of posts about the iPhone, no more of those posts. Then there's someone who's sick of posts about Terminal Tips, no more of those posts... and on, and on, and on.
Sorry, but there are several topics I have very little interest in, the same goes for everyone. The only reason people are pushing to have the religion-related posts stopped is because it's religion. Not because the posts are not relevant (they are), not because you're not interested in it specifically (I'm sure you're not completely enthralled by every other TUAW post ever), but because it's religion.
By the way, that kind of attitude is called bigotry.
Thanks for this article TJ. I too am a Logos user and was blown away by the Camp Logos experience.
October 19 2010 at 6:16 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt's just an article about software, guys. Why does it have to go to a discourse on religion or ridicule session? If it doesn't apply to you, then let it be. Those that see it as informational can benefit. Why don't we blast the articles about anything Microsoft related? Let the MS boards post about MS stuff...
It's not like the article was meant to prostelityze...(I think I spelled that right...)
I'd like to see a comparison of Bible reading tools for iOS, iPod touch and iPhone. I've paid for Laridian PocketBible content but use OliveTree Bible Reader for some functions.
October 19 2010 at 2:54 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMeh, I'm with the naysayers, let the Christian blogs cover Christian software. This blog already serves a specific niche. Though to be honest a Christian-themed post makes perfect sense on a fan blog for a company that loves to believe in their own version of reality, instead of *actual* reality.
All right, I'm done being douchey. I hope this post was civil enough for you.
Great article. Thanks for your wide spread coverage of topics.
October 19 2010 at 12:01 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replythanks for highlighting this. I never knew they had stuff this powerful. I'm new to full-time ministry and have been living in the stoneage as far as Bible commentaries go.
Thanks!
TJ, thanks for post (although every time a see a Religously themed topic on TUAW I brace for the ignorance to follow in the comments.) I'm still waiting on the big "Accordance vs. Logos" post. I'm a long time Accordance user at a NYC seminary and would love to know what makes Logos worth switching too (if it is even so in the first place.)
October 19 2010 at 11:22 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
As impressed as I am with Logos, I don't think I'd recommend switching to anyone who was happy with Accordance.
Logos has: a vast library, a Windows option, an iOS app (which Accordance will have "soon"), and your notes, etc are backed up/sync'd via their website.
The library is a double-edged sword. Yes, it means that you're more likely to find "book X" for Logos than for Accordance, but one of the things we learned in Camp Logos was how to improve our searching to match the resources that we liked and used the most and ignore those we don't. This is a common problem Logos faces.
This is an oversimplification: Logos is a theological library which includes Bible study tools (note taking, highlighting, original language study, etc). Accordance is Bible study software with a library designed to support that task. Does that mean that you can't do great Bible study with Logos? Of course not. But Bible study is one of many things that Logos does, whereas it is the primary thing that Accordance does.
I keep trying to come up with good comparisons, but I'm not sure I've succeeded. Is Accordance like Adobe Photoshop and Logos is like Adobe Lightroom? Two good tools with different purposes. Or is it more like Lightroom and Aperture, two similar tools with a different approach?
Both programs involve significant investment, both in money but also in time/learning curve. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
(I think that's the beginning of the first draft of the Accordance and Logos article :-)
oh, i get it, whomever doesn't read the bible or takes exception to this post, gets deleted, thats very reasonable, never have I seen such mockery
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