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Enterprise Desktop Alliance conducts survey on the Xserve's end


Have you deployed the Xserve in your enterprise over the past several years? With the upcoming demise of Apple's rack mounted computer system, the Enterprise Desktop Alliance (EDA) is conducting a survey to gauge what Xserve users will do going forward. The EDA normally helps IT departments incorporate Macs into their computing environments, and the survey asks a series a questions about current deployments of personal and server devices, including how many machines are running on various operating systems, such as OS X server, Windows, and Linux.

Without the Xserve, Apple will offer its server operating system on the Mac mini and the Mac Pro towers, but these may be less than ideal replacements for the rack mounted machine. The mini can be installed in a rack mount adapter, but it's less powerful than the Xserve. The tower, on the other hand, is a less convenient installation in many environments. The survey goes on to ask whether users will continue to use Macs after the Xserve is no longer available, and if not, what systems will they migrate too. One out of every 100 respondents to the survey will win a $50 Amazon gift card. Have your say in the comments, do you use Xserve now, and what will you do when the time comes to replace it?

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james Churchman

What i posted in the survey :

No but i think that i "might" have in the future. I feel that the removal of the xserve damages apple in many ways:

1) Apple is a $300 billion computer company but no longer even has a single proper server
2) Many people who purchased 1 xserve probably purchased a few hundred imacs etc.. along with it.. all those sales might now be lost
3) Apple is continuously messing with things and changing its mind, more and more giving it a reputation never to be relied upon. It will change features or remove them at the drop of the hat, remove entire products (eg xserve), drop platform and software suport (eg java), change api's very readily, drop suport for older product with little warning, make legal changes banning the use of certain things etc...
although many consumers may put up with this for a while, whilst apple products remain ahead of the game, if the gap closes or the customer is a real business they will stay clear of apple and all their nonsense.

Things like dropping an entire server line, with no viable replacement, dropping an entire development environment like java in some tiny notice on their site with no warning and with out stating there will be an alternate replacement (thought im 100 % assuming that oracle will now produce a mac JVM ) are not acceptable behaviour

The correct way to go about business is when the impact will be huge AND negative, giving people a proper stament, doing it long in advance and providing a viable and preferably much much better alternative

In the case of java this should be to announce oracle will make a BETTER jvm available as a download and with the xserve announce that it is now possibly to run OS X Server it in vmware on Oracle / Sun etc.. hardware

This will (unnecessarily) damage apple in the long run

November 10 2010 at 2:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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NutMac

I am not sure about that. Aside from pretty hardware, there's nothing special about Xserve. You can build a very capable server for about $1,000. And regarding Mac OS X Server, yes, it is the OS to use if you are using Apple's server applications (e.g., Xsan, Final Cut Server), but those are very specialized and most of what you can do with Mac OS X Server can be done with many Linux server distros for next to nothing.

November 10 2010 at 3:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
intersignben

I use 12 Xserves every day, 2006 and later models... I might have to buy from 3rd parties till they sell out, and then off to ebay when I need new servers.

November 10 2010 at 2:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
NutMac

By mentioning the survey, which is still on going and was sent to IT admins only, the result will now be polluted with Apple fanboys and/or those interested in winning $50 gift certificate. Way to go, TUAW!

November 10 2010 at 1:41 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Chris McQueen

So much of the corporate server structure is virtual now. One server actually runs 3-4 virtual servers at least. If I remember right, OSX server is the only Mac product allowed to be virtualized on non-mac hardware. I could be wrong, but I think that's what the Mac EULA states.

November 10 2010 at 1:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Billy Lavoie

I'm pretty sure it can be virtualized but only on Apple hardware

November 10 2010 at 1:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SubGenius

Bring back the PizzaBox Macs from the 90s.
Consumers would love them and they can be rack mounted easily.

November 10 2010 at 3:47 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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