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Microsoft "hasn't ruled out" bringing Office to the Mac App Store

When Apple announced the Mac App Store, one of the inevitable concerns people raised was that "someday" Apple would make it the only way to install applications.

I said at the time -- and continue to believe -- that Apple won't do this for a number of reasons, but one of the biggest was that I couldn't imagine Adobe, Microsoft, AutoCAD and others would ever want to hand Apple 30 percent of their asking price.

Well, apparently Microsoft hasn't completely ruled the idea out.

Microsoft's Amanda Lefebvre told AllThingsD that putting Office on the Mac App Store is "something we are looking at... It's something we haven't ruled out. We just have to see how that relates to our business."

Color me skeptical. I suspect that what this means is Microsoft is going to see if their market share goes down because new Mac users become accustomed to using the Mac App Store so much so that they start to think of it as the only place to get software. If that is worth the 30 percent trade-off, then we might see Office in the Mac App Store. Another issue is that Microsoft has made their licensing for Office 2011 more restrictive than 2008 whereas the Mac App Store gives users much more generous freedom to install apps on all of their Macs.

Saying that they "haven't ruled it out" gives them the freedom to decide later, and I'm guessing that's all this statement is designed to say. I'd still be shocked if it actually happens, but even if it does, I don't expect Apple to make the Mac App Store the only want to install software, at least not anytime in the next several years.

Speaking of Microsoft Office, if you haven't checked it out yet, there is now a 30-day trial available from Microsoft's website.

[via AppleInsider]



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Zeph

This 30% figure is bandied about all the time as if Apple were the only retailer expecting to take a cut of the product sold. What percentage of each copy of Office 2011 sold by MacMall is returned to MS? I'm guessing Apple isn't the only retailer expecting remuneration for their efforts to sell somebody else's product...

January 28 2011 at 5:27 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Wovel

Always amazed at how many people think 30% is a lot for distribution, payment processing and hosting lifetime updates.

I am certain it is not much more than Microsoft already pays digital river, and they do not host updates or allow re-downloads after 30 days...

January 28 2011 at 12:46 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Elranzer

This seems more likely that Microsoft is looking into a version of Office for iOS, more evident with OneNote for iOS already released.

Microsoft Office for Mac OS X will likely continue to be a retail box product.

January 28 2011 at 12:21 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jane Epperson

No doubt Microsoft will spend a year developing their own crappy App Store copy. Then after that utterly flops they'll finally come crawling back to Apple to host their outdated bloatware. A better question for 2011 is, do you use Word as a word processor because it's the best or because it's ubiquitous. Personally I use Pages for 99.9% of the writing I do, and then just check to make sure exported DOCs open properly in Word. Other than that it's irrelevant...

January 28 2011 at 11:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Zach

AutoCAD is the name of a product, the company's name is AutoDesk, and apparently, they've already put one of their software for sell at Mac App Store and it's called Sketchbook Pro

January 28 2011 at 11:38 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Al

I have a question, i have office 2008 on my mac already, if I install the trial version does it overwrite 2008, or do you have both? My exroomate shared the family pack with me so i dont have access to the disc anymore. I would really hate to screw myself over just for a stupid trial. Thanx in advance.
-Al

January 28 2011 at 10:46 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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ianlive

Al, I know when you install the full version of Office, it sweeps through your Mac and checks for older versions to overwrite. Not sure about trials though.

January 28 2011 at 11:24 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
TJ Luoma

I have the full versions of 2008 and 2011 installed on two of my macs without problem so I would assume that the trial would be safe but can't guarantee it.

January 28 2011 at 11:36 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
lmasanti

quote:
"Microsoft's Amanda Lefebvre told AllThingsD that putting Office on the Mac App Store is "something we are looking at... It's something we haven't ruled out. We just have to see how that relates to our business." "

As pointe by 9to5mac,
"Of course they are looking at it. They are also “looking at” bringing Office to the iPhone circa 2009."

quote:
"If that is worth the 30 percent trade-off, then we might see Office in the Mac App Store."

One must also take in consideration that Microsoft is paying (itself) for hosting and bandwith, and a lot more for physical packages.
So, the 30% could be less than 30%.

quote:
"Another issue is that Microsoft has made their licensing for Office 2011 more restrictive than 2008 whereas the Mac App Store gives users much more generous freedom to install apps on all of their Macs."

But, and this is my own speculation, althoug the restrictions are higher in Microsoft's sale, it is possible to copy the installer file and install in zillions of machines, while in Apple's implementation there would be only the allowed.
Also, the [automatic] update mechanism could be a very worthwhile.

January 28 2011 at 10:43 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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TJ Luoma

> But, and this is my own speculation, althoug the restrictions are higher in Microsoft's sale, it is possible to copy the installer file and install in zillions of machines, while in Apple's implementation there would be only the allowed.
>

Office 2011 uses online activation and limits the number of computers which can be activated at once. So you can copy the installer wherever you want, but you'll still only be able to use it on the allotted number of computers, whereas on the Mac App Store you can install it on as many computers as you enter your Apple ID information.


> Also, the [automatic] update mechanism could be a very worthwhile.

The Mac App Store's update mechanism is less automatic than what Microsoft currently offers, which is an updater which will check every day (or at least periodically) for updates and prompt the user to update.

The Mac App Store assumes that people will run the App Store app, notice updates, and download/install them manually.

January 28 2011 at 11:47 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
danrik

Do y'all seriously think Microsoft, Adobe, or AutoCAD pays less than 30% to sell a boxed copy at Best Buy or store.apple.com?

January 28 2011 at 10:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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ianlive

Solid point. I never considered that. I wonder what the markup is at those stores for software.

January 28 2011 at 11:21 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
hmlong

Or Amazon. Or Target. Or Walmart. Or...

Retailers get Microsoft products at wholesale prices and mark it up to the asking price. That's how they stay in business. Not to mention that certain vendors also pay extra for special placements, displays, end-caps, and so on.

For Microsoft, the App store would just be another retail outlet.

January 28 2011 at 1:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jeffpodraza

I would love the to also allow purchase of individual pieces of Office... I really want Outlook, but not worth $290

January 28 2011 at 10:38 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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mack

The only way that Apple can make the Mac App Store the sole source to put an app on a Mac would be for Apple to forbid users from running compilers.

If Apple did this, who would there be to develop new applications for the Mac platform or for iOS?

Apple can prevent users from putting their own third party apps on iOS devices because these apps are not developed on the iOS platform.

January 28 2011 at 10:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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