Is the Apple TV about to take on Xbox Live?

One of TUAW's tipsters points to an interesting possible development for the Apple TV: an online gaming service beyond what Game Center's paltry offerings currently provide, expanding gaming in iOS to the "hobby" living room device.
Mysterious references to "ATVThunder" in the yet-to-be-released iOS 4.3 seem to indicate online games and merchandising will soon flow through iTunes and potentially into your Apple TV. Imagine scheduling games to be played online, viewing games by date, leaderboards by date (beyond Today, This Week and All Time), or watching live games or archived games. From what's been spotted in the OS, these may all be possible via streaming to your Apple TV. Considering the 8 GB of onboard storage for the device, it would have to be streaming, wouldn't it? Luckily the Apple TV is capable of OpenGL rendering, and the onboard processor and iOS frameworks are up to the task of streaming all sorts of things, including games. It's got the same A4 CPU that powers the iPad, clearly a gaming platform in its own right.
Speaking of streaming, there are a couple of other references worth noting: "Sedona" and "Flagstaff" are listed as features in the OS. We have no idea what Flagstaff is, but Sedona is Apple's video rental mechanism. Considering the North Carolina data center for a moment, and what we're seeing in the 4.3 firmware, it isn't too much of a stretch to see video rentals becoming video streaming through the Apple TV.
Another item: FEATURE_REMOTE_SCREENSAVER, which could be a way to push feature-rich screensavers beyond the Mac screen and onto your Apple TV or other iDevice. Imagine seeing Game Center leaderboards live on the Apple TV while you go grab a sandwich. Or something as mundane as the weather. iOS 4.3 is shaping up to be a pretty big update if any of these come to pass.
Lastly, we're seeing support for DVD remotes from vendors such as Denon, Hitachi and Apex. Could this mean third-party remote support for the Apple TV? That would be nice -- and handy if you're watching a lot of movies. Update: As commenters have pointed out, the Apple TV supports third-party remotes as playback remotes. The evidence we're seeing indicates something ... different. Our tipster was intrigued by this behavior from a Harmony remote and decided to investigate. Could the remote be used to manipulate something other than playback? Or could Apple sell a proprietary IR blaster to plug into the USB port on the Apple TV? We'll keep digging for an answer.
To sum up, it appears iOS 4.3 could add some new sales vectors for Apple and some more data sharing services:
- Online gaming, from MMOs to arcade games using Xbox Live-style matches and associated merchandising. Beyond your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch, these games could be played through the Apple TV. There could even be a new controller in the future, leveraging the infrared or Bluetooth connectivity on the ATV.
- Video streaming rentals and merchandising through Apple TV, quite possibly using the North Carolina data center to push the streams.
- The mysterious "Flagstaff" and a potential remote screensaver to enable stronger Mac/iOS/Apple TV connections.
- Support for third-party remotes with an IR blaster or as more than a playback controller.
Any way you slice it, the next update to iOS looks to deliver some serious mojo to the little black box in the living room.
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One of TUAW's tipsters points to an interesting possible development for the Apple TV: an online gaming service beyond what Game Center's...
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They might want to get the video streaming working first. It doesn't seem to warrant any reports but thousands of owners have been unable to rent movies & play them immediately as Apple states. Many, including myself, have to wait hours for said films to download to the buffer & play, just check Apple's own usergroups.
It's seems that Apple feel that this is down the owners to fix as they usually blame their broadband speed or network config even though most have Xboxes & can rent & watch HD movies through them without any problem.
@Vic
So you don't know very much about online console gaming, and you wrote a ridiculous headline. Own up to it. Conversely, you could amend it to read "Is Apple TV about to take on Xbox Live and PlayStation Network?" I mean, whatever makes you feel like you've really performed due diligence here.
I ho9nestly think this is more about supplying game content as far as coverage, like espn. Maybe we are going to start to see some channels or apps, but games is a little far fethced for the hardware (or non streaming/borwser based apps) due to lack of phisical storage.
February 10 2011 at 11:04 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyVideo streaming from the North Carolina Data Center?
Not a chance.
No one (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc) sources their video streams from a central location. They use CDNs (Akamai, Level 3, etc) located throughout the country in order to minimize the distance the video has to travel.
Apple even uses CDNs to push software updates, which use less bandwidth than video would.
Can't wait for Apple to capitalize on ATV's capabilities. Also, hope MLB.tv comes to ATV soon.
February 10 2011 at 9:21 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyConsider the possibility of Apple buying OnLive.
February 10 2011 at 8:39 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMaybe they'll start building on taking all those games into the TV set but that would possibly eliminate many uses of the iPad + make those games look really bad on an HD screen until hi-res graphic updates of those games appear. Casual gaming as a side offer of ATV seems like a smart move, but taking on Xbox live at this moment is kinda far fetched. Totally different crowd with totally different goals. Now, if they make an aTV+console device and woo big developers then we're talking, but from where we are now it's too far to know or predict (who could predict what wii did and how bad Sony did with the PS3?)
February 10 2011 at 8:30 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI bet a lot of people would enjoy "Words With Friends" on the AppleTV.
It does not have Bluetooth, btw.
The AppleTV had Bluetooth it's just not used/active currently. Check the ifixit teardown for proof - it's on the same chip as the wifi, same as the ipad/iPod touch.
February 10 2011 at 7:51 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyInteresting! I did not know that. Weird that they don't list it on the tech specs page...
February 10 2011 at 8:01 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyUmmm, Xbox Live isn't the same thing as Xbox 360. It's a way for gamers to connect, swap scores, display avatars, play each other etc.
Sounds very plausible for the AppleTV to do something like this with its current hardware.
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