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Does Thunderbolt fortell the end of the line for the Mac Pro as we know it?

Thunderbolt!

Xsan integrator Meta Media has an interesting series of posts on its Empowering Creativity blog about what it sees as the future -- or rather the lack of a future -- for Apple's Mac Pro line.

The arrival of the Thunderbolt interface, Meta Media says, will allow Apple to return to its beloved sealed-box model of computer production with no user-serviceable parts inside, just like the original Macintosh. No expansion cards, no hard disk upgrades, just Thunderbolt (aka Light Peak) interfaces to connect ... well, to connect anything you like really.

"The new Mac Pro will probably look something akin to the current Mac Mini, except slightly taller, more powerful, and with Thunderbolt ports," the thinking goes. "In fact, all of us need to grapple with the prospect of a Mac product line without any capability of expansion beyond USB, Firewire and Thunderbolt."

The latest MacBook Pros were the first to sport Thunderbolt connectors, and Meta Media argues that the rest of the Mac lineup will follow. The post points to the arrival of devices such as Promise's SANLink Thunderbolt to dual-port, 4 Gigabit Fiber Channel adapter as heralding this change; the post forecasts that this is just the start.

"This means that at any time now, Apple can pull the plug on the current Mac Pro and not shock an entire industry. Add to that the near-production offerings of Thunderbolt-driven capture devices from AJA, Blackmagic Design, Matrox and MOTU, and we have our new-age video workstation clearly in sight," Meta Media says.

You'll find the blog posts here, here, here and here -- have a read and let us know what you think. Would you be sad to see the Mac Pro range disappear into a giant Mac mini case? Will you be happy just plugging everything into Thunderbolt ports? Let us know in the comments.



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speedvillain

Thunderbolt will not only replace every cable out there but will replace the very slow USB 2.0 which surpasses it at 20X the speed. It will replace USB 3.0 which still hasn't taken off and yet it will surpass it at twice the speed. In the next 6 months we will be seeing alot of products with Thunderbolt ports.

May 13 2011 at 12:12 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
DWalla

Not even the remotest chance is going to cancel their Mac Pro line.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous and naive articles I've ever read on the subject of computers.

Do you SERIOUSLY think that animators are going to go from 12-core Xeon 32GB machines to quad-core i7's? Speed is everything in this industry.... computers don't exist on I/O ports alone.

And you guys are supposed to be the smart ones?

May 12 2011 at 11:28 AM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
Bill Eccles

I have my reservations about Thunderbolt, and they're the same as I had for Firewire. Instead of writing them here, I'll refer you to here:

http://www.bill.eccles.net/bills_words/2011/02/what-i-dont-know-what-you-need.html

April 24 2011 at 3:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jonwil2002

I think what the next MP could be is a sealed box with a form factor like the Mac Mini only larger.

It would come with a suitable range of high-end beefy CPUs and big amounts of RAM. Throw in some basic storage for the OS (maybe an SSD) with a

All the storage required for the video editing and stuff would come from external Light Peak hard disks and the video capture and processing and display kit could also come from Light Peak devices.

April 23 2011 at 8:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bob6stringer

Ooh... speed of light... once they trade copper for Intel's original glass design, that is. Except for one problem: By the time Apple goes fiber optic, the internals in a Mac Pro will be running at speed of thought, rendering LightiningBolt so last-generation.

April 21 2011 at 4:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
James

What are you Nucking Futs? The MacPro is going to be around for a long long time and it's not just the expansion that's important. There will be a Thunderbolt add-on card, if not from Apple from another vendor.

Professionals use MacPros, they are used in Hollywood to edit movies, in the studio to record music, engineers working with huge sets of data, etc. Developers with big apps that take half a day to compile, use 20+ MacPros to compile it in minutes.

Professionals, Scientists, Engineers, Artists, etc. Need MacPros! Even a quad core laptop is not good enough. The MacPro is not a desktop computer, it is a professional workstation class machine. The same pieces and parts cost more from Dell, HP, etc.

I bought a single MacPro instead of 5 PC's because with VMWare Fusion and enough disk space and RAM, I can virtualize an entire lab of virtual machines all interacting in virtual space in one machine! I use less power and space. I use this box heavily. A laptop or Mini system would not be able to do all this...

April 21 2011 at 6:11 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
dood

How many TB ports will the new mac pro have then, because we know that, 1) there aren't many TB devices right now, 2) If you daisy chain devices, highest speed becomes the slowest device, or if one device fails, everything downstream stops working.

I don't see this being better than having upgradable internals. Can you add RAM via TB? Use the latest greatest graphics card? No way. That seems like a pretty dumb article to me, has the writer ever assembled a PC? If he did, he'll know external ports =/= internal ports, the point of the MBP is be what every other Mac can't be and top of the line, why would Apple turn it into the Mac Mini?

April 20 2011 at 11:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CAVEperson

SCSI hell all over again. I'm quite happy with my current Pro, thank you.

April 20 2011 at 9:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Koleckai

My interest in the Apple lineup is constranined to the Mac Mini, MacBook Pros and mobile devices. I can do all of my work within those constraints. These will already be relegated to "dongle hell" or more likely an integrated network architecture.

The Mac Pro is a elite device and it will most likely remain so with it's user upgradeable parts, slots and bays. I can't see them changing this because the premium charged for the privilege would be lessened.

April 20 2011 at 5:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Christopher M. Morris

I have a Mac Pro that I bought in late 2007. Before that, an iMac G5 iSight. The next Mac I buy will be a 27" iMac quad core, or whatever is made at the time. I remember reading way back about LightPeak then, now Thunderbolt, and thought how they could make an add-on box way smaller than the Mac Pro and have it for extra drive slots, possiblity of slots for internal cards for other types of hardware, maybe even additional memory if that is possible. The iMac would then be a Mac Pro but with a display. Anyways, just me daydreaming as usual. =)

April 20 2011 at 3:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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